Washington State Fishing Thread, Towing 9'3" beam boats in Fishing Reports; What's the rule for towing larger beam boats? Say a Grady White Gulf or a Albemarle...  | |
Jul-15-2008, 10:39 AM
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#1 | | Registered User
Name: Miles Vessel: 15ft Tiller Location: WA Job:Designer
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| Towing 9'3" beam boats
What's the rule for towing larger beam boats? Say a Grady White Gulf or a Albemarle |
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Jul-15-2008, 10:45 AM
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#2 | | Bluewater Calls To Me
Name: Todd Schwartz Vessel: 28' Albemarle Express, ISO KALA Location: Snohomish, WA USA or Westport in summer Job:Highly Sophisticated Fish Terminator Sent Back In Time To Change The Future For Some Lucky Fish
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Anything over 8'6" is overwidth and you need a permit and overwidth signs. With that being said.........nevermind.
TT
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Jul-15-2008, 10:59 AM
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#3 | | Under the Radar
Name: Troy Age: 39 Vessel: Grady White Gulfstream Location: Bird Rock Job:Yes, I have a job
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Originally Posted by Swede What's the rule for towing larger beam boats? Say a Grady White Gulf or a Albemarle  | We don't tow our gulfstream far (mainly because our trailer is on it's last legs) but when we do we don't get a permit. We just do it. Sometimes I'll follow behind in my car to "block" any cops or anyone getting to close.
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Jul-15-2008, 11:14 AM
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#4 | | Registered User
Name: Miles Vessel: 15ft Tiller Location: WA Job:Designer
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Thanks, Todd.
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Jul-15-2008, 11:33 AM
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#5 | | Registered User
Name: Jim Vessel: 28' Pursuit Location: Sammamish, WA Job:Talking Head Bio: My grandfather was a Westport charter boat skipper...hope I make him proud.
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What TT said... and there's several restrictions about when/where you can tow; and rules for displaying your wide load signs on front/back and flags at the widest point of the towed vessel. Don't have my notes with me right now (I called DOT cuz i couldn't find anything on their website) but the 30day permits were like $30 or $60, annual ones more, obviously.
Again, What TT said "never mind" Just make sure you've got the widest trailer possible so the the chines don't extend beyond the fender wells.
my 2 pennies.
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Jul-15-2008, 11:45 AM
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#6 | | Registered User
Name: Greg Vessel: Grady White 232 Gulfstream Location: Montesano Job:Full time student Bio: I need a better job so I can buy a bigger boat and fish more.
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I just tow my Gulfstream and dont really worry about it. Usually it is to Westport, Sieku, or Neah Bay.
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Jul-15-2008, 12:12 PM
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#7 | | KIK-N-BAK
Name: Al Age: 63 Vessel: 30 Ft. Blackman Outerbanks KIK-N-BAK Location: Lemon Grove Job:Government Supervisor-July 1-06 Retired
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I asked a friend who works for the Calif. Hiway Patrol. Most CHP do not care and do not know the restrictions. That said here is the guide lines:
1. Lanes are about 11 ft wide.
2. Over 8' 6" you can only drive between the hours of 6:00 pm and 6:00 am, at night.
3. 9' 6", I think is the max, without a permit, and you drive during the night.
4. Over 9' 6" but less then 10.6 ft., you should have a permit, each time you use the road and have a other car with signs.
These are some guidelines and sizes may vary some. Do some research for yourself to be safe.
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Jul-15-2008, 12:22 PM
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#8 | | Registered User
Name: mike Vessel: 22 bayliner Location: maple valley Job:engineer
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You guys must be independantly wealthy to be even asking questions like this!!
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Jul-15-2008, 03:34 PM
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#9 | | Legend in own mind
Name: Patrick Vessel: "Hooked " 2101 Seaswirl Striper W/A AK Package Location: Sequim,Wa.USA Job:Electrician
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ask the Fish Nazzi, he does that for a living
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Jul-15-2008, 05:06 PM
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#10 | | Registered User
Name: Jeff Vessel: Grady 305 Express Location: Washington Job:Self employed
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Originally Posted by Alfred I asked a friend who works for the Calif. Hiway Patrol. Most CHP do not care and do not know the restrictions. That said here is the guide lines:
1. Lanes are about 11 ft wide.
2. Over 8' 6" you can only drive between the hours of 6:00 pm and 6:00 am, at night.
3. 9' 6", I think is the max, without a permit, and you drive during the night.
4. Over 9' 6" but less then 10.6 ft., you should have a permit, each time you use the road and have a other car with signs.
These are some guidelines and sizes may vary some. Do some research for yourself to be safe. | Alfred, I don't know where you got the above but those aren't the regs in Washington, Oregon or Canada.
The regs in this state are: You can tow anything up to 10' wide anytime of the day with your overwidth permit. Anything over 10' (9' on a couple of bridges and smaller highways) cannot travel pretty much during the hours of 6am to 9am and 3pm to 7pm. This is only on the main highways between here and Portland.
I've been towing a Grady for years with a 10'7" beam and have never been stopped. I only put the signs on when traveling over 50 miles. This state is by far the most expensive for permits. I can get a one year permit in Oregon or Canada for $7 to $15. Here it will cost you over a $100 for a few months. So I usually don't even mess with the permits in this state as the price they charge is ridiculous.
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Jul-16-2008, 10:33 PM
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#11 | | Ex sport Capt
Name: Troy Age: 45 Vessel: 3 Location: West Side,Washington Job:Trying to be a thorn in the ass of anyone considering a closure
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ok lets cut the crap.......WA State a monthly permit is $20 if you get it at the DOT office. You can call and they will send you a form on fax or email. The State of Washington is feeling the fuel crunch. I know last year there push was pulling over p/u's pulling trailers CHECKING THE WEIGHT RATING of the tralier(IF over 12,000lbs gotta have a class A cdl) and checking width and height measurement. If you are involved in an accident and no permit...............your party. Pilot cars are only required if your width is MORE then 11' on two lane roads(one in the ft and rear.....TWO CARS) 12' wide in Seattle city limits. over 14' wide on the interstate. 14'6" in the height requirement in WA for a pole car.That CA stuff must have come after a few beers.........17'6' before a ploe car is required. Over 12' wide and you need 1 rear car. You can travel sunrise to sunset except for city curfews. Though ca allows night travel it is ONLY AN OPTION NOT A REQUIREMENT. All of the 48 states require a permit and banners if YOUR OVERALL width (NOT THE WIDTH OF BOAT ONLY) is more then 8'6". BOTTOM LINE IF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN ACCIDENT WITH OUT A PERMIT HAULING OVERSIZE OR OVER WEIGHT ANY LAWYER IN THE WORLD WILL HAVE YOU FOR LUNCH. CHECK YOUR CAR INSURANCE POLICY.........."IF DRIVER IS FOUND NEGLIGANT DRIVER MAY NOT BE INSURED........." Why take the chance a couple banners 4 red flags and a monthly permit........3 day permits(in a row.......not your choice) are $10. If all that seems to much or you don't have a trailer for your boat...........we do give me a call!!!! Good luck and drive safe.
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Jul-16-2008, 10:39 PM
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#12 | | Ex sport Capt
Name: Troy Age: 45 Vessel: 3 Location: West Side,Washington Job:Trying to be a thorn in the ass of anyone considering a closure
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Originally Posted by Hoghunter Alfred, I don't know where you got the above but those aren't the regs in Washington, Oregon or Canada.
The regs in this state are: You can tow anything up to 10' wide anytime of the day with your overwidth permit. Anything over 10' (9' on a couple of bridges and smaller highways) cannot travel pretty much during the hours of 6am to 9am and 3pm to 7pm. This is only on the main highways between here and Portland.
I've been towing a Grady for years with a 10'7" beam and have never been stopped. I only put the signs on when traveling over 50 miles. This state is by far the most expensive for permits. I can get a one year permit in Oregon or Canada for $7 to $15. Here it will cost you over a $100 for a few months. So I usually don't even mess with the permits in this state as the price they charge is ridiculous. | Canada (BC) monthlies are $30 are good only to 11'6" on width. We have yearly for OR to but it cost quite a bit more then $15.........I'll have to check permit tommorrow but more then $15.....
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