Bloodydecks.com

Go Back   Bloodydecks.com > Fishing Related > Fishing Reels > Fishing Reel Tutorials > Shimano

Shimano Thread, Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial in Fishing Reel Tutorials; Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial Shimano service diagrams are at these URLs torium 16 http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570267.pdf torium 20 http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570268.pdf torium 30 http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570269.pdf ...
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Dec-11-2006, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
Barking Spider
 
mmayo's Avatar
 
Name: Mayo
Age: 58
Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja
Location: Long Beach
Job:teacher/professor
Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
Posts: 127
Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

Shimano service diagrams are at these URLs

torium 16
http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570267.pdf

torium 20
http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570268.pdf

torium 30
http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishin...9830570269.pdf

See the Shimano site for other Trinidad series reels, but expect the same details

Start with a series of Phillips-head screwdrivers (small, medium and large), Shimano handle wrench (key 355), Q-tips, quality bearing oil, drag grease, gear grease. I made two tools to hold in the Torium/Trinidad surprise spring and click pin during assembly (1). Position the reel with the handle facing up (2) and select a medium screwdriver and remove the handle nut plate screw (key 128) (3).

Click the image to open in full size.

Lift off the handle nut plate (key 603) (4). Use the Shimano wrench to remove the handle nut (key 262) (5). Remove the handle (key 604) (6). Wipe both items down well.

Click the image to open in full size.


Be careful to either put a towel over the entire assembly or place both your hands around the star drag as you turn. There is a spring (key 296) and click spring (key 295) under and inside the star drag. If you do not cover it, it might shoot across the room. Start to carefully unscrew the star drag (7). In this case (but not always) the two little devils are trapped by one of the washers (8). The very tiny click pin (key 295) is shown here on my finger (9).

Click the image to open in full size.


Remove, clean and re-grease the click spring (key 296) (10). I use the same tool for this as to hold in the spring later. Set both in a secure location near the star drag (11). Remove the washers on the drive shaft as a group (12).

Click the image to open in full size.


It may take a couple of tries to get them all off (13). Be careful with last of the stack - the somewhat delicate bearing seal (key 270). Here are the washers in order from bottom near the bearing (left) to top near the star drag (right) (14). You might be able to see the water/salt water left after a wash down – wipe them all down. The shaft ball bearing (key 486) is located here (15). It might be easier to get the bearing out after you remove the right side plate.



Click the image to open in full size.


I use a medium screwdriver for the four smaller screws (keys 305 & 308). The screws are easy to strip so firmly insert the screwdriver (16). Now, switch to a large screwdriver and remove the four larger screws (key 606) (17). The eight screws are arranged 4-key 606, 2-key 305, 2-key 308 (18).

Click the image to open in full size.


Remove the right side plate by lifting it straight up (19). The shaft bearing will usually come out during removal of the side plate (20). Clean it, if you have a stock one packed with grease with contact cleaner and oil it with quality oil like Speed X. The roller clutch inner tube (key 494) is seen protruding from the roller clutch (key 493) (21).

Click the image to open in full size.


The roller clutch inner tube (key 494) is shown after removal (22). A surprise you will find somewhere is the line clip (key 280) (23). It is loosely attached in a slot on the one piece frame. Clean the inside of the side plate and pay special attention to the clutch lever assembly shown at the top (24). Paint it with grease for protection and lubrication.

Click the image to open in full size.


Clean and grease the roller clutch bearing (key 493), removal is not always needed (25). Look on the back of the handle and you will probably see the drive shaft shield (key 264) (26 & 27). If you regularly service your reel and use grease in these areas it will always stay attached loosely stuck to the handle.

Click the image to open in full size.


Here is the view of the reel under the right side plate (28). Remove the main gear (key 759) and the drag stack as a unit (29). The region shown in 30 is the anti-reverse pawn (key 303) or dog as most non-Shimano people call it.

Click the image to open in full size.


You should oil this assembly especially at the pivot shaft (31). If it is sluggish when you move it, remove the two screws (key 305) and the anti-reverse pawl cover (key 306). Clean it well, add oil and reassemble. The narrow end of the pawl cover goes down during assembly. The dog (key 303) has two delicate INWARDLY bent ears or fingers that surround the main gear. They should HUG the gear if correctly bent. After reassembly rotate the shaft with the reel held in the horizontal position. It should stop movement in the wrong direction if the dog is working.
Clean the yoke plate (key 302) region and reapply fresh grease (32). Add a small amount of grease to the pinion gear. Remove the drag washer A (key 418) that is found under the main gear (key 759) and above the anti-reverse ratchet (key 294) and wipe down the anti-reverse ratchet (key 294) (33). Be careful not to snag the anti-reverse pawl (key 303) and bend it.



Click the image to open in full size.


Clean drive gear (key 759) on the bottom and inside. Apply grease to the bottom and a bit on the teeth of the gears (34). Two different drag washers are shown in photo 35. The one on the left is the “dartanium” stock drag from Shimano and the one I like is from Carbontex – you might see a difference in texture with the Carbontex model heavily textured. Various reasons led me to use these drags mostly because they NEVER crack when you service the reel. They are also less of a mess to clean and install. I also think they have a longer service life. Use Shimano drag grease (I now use Cal Sheet's grease on my drags) in both sides of each fiber or “dartaniun” washer (36). Just a tiny amount if spread evenly is plenty. The first washer (key 291) you insert into the drive gear is the one with a LARGE HOLE – be sure or you will ruin your drag.

Click the image to open in full size.


The next drag plate has a square hole (key 290) clean it before insertion. Thread on the next washer (key 288) (38). If this is a Carbontex washer it should have heavy texture! The eared washer goes in next (key 289). The ears are visible in photo (39) – the ears go DOWN in the assembly.

Click the image to open in full size.


The eared washer (key 289) is shown correctly inserted with the ears DOWN (40). The drag stack should now be roughly flush with the main gear. The final fiber washer (key 288) from Carbontex is very lightly textured; it looks different from all other HT100-type washers (41). Two key washers (key 929) are shown in photo 42. The one on the right is a stock Shimano and the other is from Cal Sheets. I can say that I DO NOT see a great deal of difference from the use of this $18 washer upgrade. I did notice a greater improvement when I installed the Carbontex washers. Still, I have the Cal Sheets washer on my reel! The highly polished side goes DOWN toward the fiber washer. The top of the stock washer is domed or raised in appearance.

Click the image to open in full size.


The opposite side of the key washer is visible here (43) – note it is NOT shiny, but dull on the outer rim. Again, the top of the stock washer is domed. Install the roller clutch inner tube (key 494) with the ears inward toward the slots in the key washer (44 & 45). Be sure the ears seat correctly into the key washer.

Click the image to open in full size.


This photo does not do justice to the line clip (key 280) due to its blurry nature, but grease the slot where it goes and slip it in place (46). The grease will hopefully keep it there during the assembly of the rest of side plate. It only goes in from one direction. Insert the side plate onto the reel. Be easy and jiggle it until it seats well. You may also have to move the clutch lever to get the assembly to fully seat. Hold it in place with your thumb (47). Grease all screw holes and the area where the screws will seat – be generous as you will wipe off the excess (48).


Click the image to open in full size.



The right bearing (key 486) is shown just before it seated around the shaft with a gentle touch (49). Next, install the bearing seal (key 270). It is a very thin plastic item so be careful. I keep a couple of these on hand as you will find them distorted after a BIG fight and buttoned drags (50) or when you have damaged it. The bearing thrust washer (key 269) is now installed. It is a small silver washer (51).


Click the image to open in full size.



Pair of drag spring washers (key 267 & 268) is installed in this orientation () (52). Most people call these bellville washers. One is usually thin and the other thick, but some suggest using two thick ones for better drag pressure. You might try this if you need additional drag pounds (like on a Trinidad). A gray colored washer called the star drag washer is next (key 266) (53). Insert the cleaned and greased click spring first and then click pin into this hole (54). It should protrude out past the threads.

Click the image to open in full size.


I have made a couple of tools to hold the click pin and spring in the compressed state while I thread on the star drag (57). Push the click spring in with the flat side of a small slotted screwdriver and then insert something thin, round and stiff to hold the spring in the compressed state (55). Be careful to get in front of the spring or have it aimed at you when you do this. Until you get some facility with this you may shoot it across the room when your concentration on the spring fades and you let it go. Good bye click pin and hello Shimano! The small yellow tool is my favorite because I can get the star drag over the yellow end and let it drop down to where I can start it threading on the shaft (56). Be sure to get the threads aligned or you will strip the fine threads. You need to rotate it quite a number of times until you hear the click spring start to click. If you hear that you can let go of the tool depressing the click pin.

Click the image to open in full size.


The star drag is correctly threaded on the shaft here and clicks nicely (58). A drive shaft shield (key 264) goes on the shaft before the handle (59). I put a thin rub of grease on all parts around the handle since this area gets wet constantly. Put on the handle (key 604). Note that I have the handle in the left hole; this is for faster retrieve. The one on the right or closest to the end of the handle is for additional power. If speed is not an issue USE THE power setting if you catch big fish, that ½ inch makes a lot of difference in your ability to turn the handle.

Click the image to open in full size.


Grease the area around the shaft generously before you install the handle nut (key 262) (61). Make the nut firm, but not fully tight at this point using the Shimano wrench (key 355). Install the handle nut plate (key 603) and align it so that the hole is close the hole in the handle. Use the wrench to tighten or loosen the handle nut for an exact match. Insert and tighten the handle nut plate screw (key 128). A small slotted or medium Phillips will tighten this nicely. DO not over tighten it or the head will strip (63).

Click the image to open in full size.



Pay some attention now to the area where the hand grip spins (64). Clean and oil this area. Spin the handle quite a bit to insure that it spins freely. You may see corrosion or even a fish scale come out from under the handle. Clean and re-oil until this stops and the handle spins freely. Turn the reel over and start on the left side plate. Oil the click button (clicker) (key 616). Move it back and forth to work in the oil (65). Loosen the four screws (key 546) with a large phillips screwdriver. Pull up on the left side plate and it will come free (66).

Click the image to open in full size.


Remove the spool by grabbing the shaft (67). Oil the left side bearing (key 484) shown in the center of the left side plate. Use contact spray if yours is filled with grease; then oil it. The difference in freespool and casting distant will surprise you when you remove the grease (68). Clean and oil the bearing on the spool (key 621) (69). Be careful not to get any spray cleaner on your line.

Click the image to open in full size.


Oil the tips of both stainless portions of your spool shaft (70). Reinsert the spool with the long shaft first and the short shaft facing up. Install the left side plate. Grease all four depressions where the screws will go well. Insert the screws and tighten well. Wipe off excess grease from all areas of the reel, but excess grease will usually be helpful. Adjust the cast control cap (key 276) so that the spool shifts left and right just a small amount. Too much play is not better than just a little side to side movement.

Click the image to open in full size.


I like to test the drags at this point. You can see that this reel gave 14 pounds of drag. I fish a Torium 20 with 30, 40 or 50# test so this is more than enough. The usual ideal is to set your drag to 25% of the line test so I need (7.5, 10 and 12.5 pounds respectively). One time I did not test the drags on a Trinidad; the result was my friend had to hand line in a 45 pound bluefin! Always check them and back them off to rest them for the fish before you put your reel away. Check free spool using blue tape to hold down the line. The reel is now ready to fish!


Click the image to open in full size.



I hope this helps you with this kind of reel. For cranking iron on the cheap or for showing your cash in the form of a shiny gold Trini - they are great reels. Send me comment on how to improve this or which other tutorials you might like/need.
mmayo is offline   Reply With Quote
   
Old Feb-11-2007, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
Barking Spider
 
mmayo's Avatar
 
Name: Mayo
Age: 58
Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja
Location: Long Beach
Job:teacher/professor
Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
Posts: 127
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

A friend in my fishing club is about to sell a Trinidad 30. It has the carbon fiber drag upgrade and a Cal Sheets drag plate. The reel will also have 300 yards of 50# spectra. Let me know before EBAY...
mmayo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Apr-11-2007, 10:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Name: michael seah
Vessel: none
Location: singapore
Job:self empoly
Posts: 1
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

Dear Sir,can Torium16 do jigging also?Please advise.Thank you!

Best Regards!
michael seah
uncle michael is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May-03-2007, 07:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
Barking Spider
 
mmayo's Avatar
 
Name: Mayo
Age: 58
Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja
Location: Long Beach
Job:teacher/professor
Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
Posts: 127
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

Yes,

I have caught 40+ pound yellowtail and a 45# wahoo using one with 40# and 50# mono.
mmayo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May-20-2007, 04:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
H1MTSAR's Avatar
 
Name: Jim
Age: 38
Vessel: 40' Viking Sportfisher "FISH SLAYER ONE"
Location: S.D.
Job:Navy Search and Rescue
Bio: FISHING - What else is there?
Posts: 149
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

2 things - Just after my last East Cape trip, tore down my toriums (16 & 20's x 2). I caught everything from Mahi to football size Yellow Fin Tuna. Upon getting down to my drag washers the 16's washers were shot, in pieces. I replaced with new ones and loaned my gear to a buddy who proceeded to land a 132 stripped marlin. Great little reel. I haven't torn it down since (kinda afraid to see what my new washers look like.)
2- In order to re-insert the click pin and spring I'd recommend using the last washer in the stack. Place spring and pin into hole, then slide that washer over the top. The spring and pin will hold the washer in place and allow the star to come down onto the top couple of threads, once engaged it should go down easy and allow the clicker to start doing its job. This worked flawlessly 2 out of 3. On the third I had to screw the star up and down a couple of times before the clicker engaged.
Hope that makes sense.
__________________
"NO SUCH THING AS A STUPID QUESTION, JUST STUPID PEOPLE THAT ASK QUESTIONS."
CHEERS
JIM
H1MTSAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May-23-2007, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Name: Michael
Vessel: none
Location: California
Job:Looking for one.
Posts: 92
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

What is contact spray / spray cleaner? Where can I get it?

Are there any other bearings that will affect the freespool other than the left sideplate bearing??

THANKS
2nastick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May-29-2007, 07:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Name: Matt
Vessel: 16'
Location: NZ
Job:paper
Posts: 2
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

Excellent; best service instructions I've ever come across for these reels.

The first time I dismantled a Trini the little pin went flying off across the room. The spring luckily hit me and came to rest on the table. Some considerable time later I found the pin on the carpet; I was just about to give up.
mattv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun-03-2007, 12:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
Barking Spider
 
mmayo's Avatar
 
Name: Mayo
Age: 58
Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja
Location: Long Beach
Job:teacher/professor
Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
Posts: 127
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

I use electrical contact cleaner to clean bearings. I buy it at auto parts places. It is $10, but works very very well. Place the dirty bearing on a couple of paper towels (protect the surface underneath if needed) and spray using the small tube supplied with the cleaner. Turn the bearing over and move it each time. You will see the residue! Pat it dry and wait 2-4 minutes to be sure all of the cleaner evaporates before applying fresh oil. Expect better freespool!
mmayo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun-05-2007, 07:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
Barking Spider
 
mmayo's Avatar
 
Name: Mayo
Age: 58
Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja
Location: Long Beach
Job:teacher/professor
Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
Posts: 127
Re: Torium/Trinidad 16/20/30 Service Tutorial

There are three bearings related to the spool in the Torium/Trinidad series. The left bearing is exposed by removing 4 screws from the left sideplate. You can also see the spool bearing this way by removing the spool. The right bearing is only easily available by a complete service as shown below in my tutorial. All three will affect the spool's rotation.
mmayo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul-29-2008, 11:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
twicebitten's Avatar
 
Name: twicebitten
Vessel: None
Location: San Diego
Job:Desperate Angler
Posts: 19
Very well done! You helped me clean-up my Torium 30 and switch to carbontex drags with little difficulty. Thanks for the thorough write-up and pictures. The only thing I problem I see is it does not free-spool as as freely as my newer, less abused Torium 20. Next time I will use the contact cleaner on the bearings and see fi that helps.

The true test of my following directions should come through on my next overnight out of SD on 7/31/08.
twicebitten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul-30-2008, 11:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
PescadorPete's Avatar
 
Name: Pete
Vessel: Scupper Pro
Location: Leucadia
Job:electron pusher
Posts: 62
Grease on the spool shaft where is passes through the pinion gear can slow things down. Check that next time you have the hood up.
PescadorPete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov-03-2009, 09:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
delrod's Avatar
 
Name: cody
Vessel: whoever will let me in
Location: ft worth texas
Job:firefighter
Posts: 56
x2 on using the washer to hold in the little click pin. took me many teardowns to figure this out. also, i have been using brake cleaner instead of die electric. its cheaper and was told it also dries very clean. put the bearing on a screwdriver or pencil, go outside, and spray away. can tell when its ready when you stop spraying and the bearing spins another 20 seconds. great tutorial, thanks for taking the time
__________________
where are de fish?
delrod is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WANTED TERAMAR TMC 80H 20-40 AND TORIUM 20 OR TORIUM 30 EMAIL hotrail2000@sbcglobal.n Classified Ads Classified Ads 0 Aug-08-2007 07:20 AM
Torium 30 vs. Trinidad 30 Phin Fishing Reels 4 Mar-28-2007 03:49 PM
Brand new TRINIDAD 40 NARROW SPECIAL TRADE FOR TRINIDAD 20 Classified Ads Classified Ads 0 Jan-28-2007 05:00 PM
Cal Drag Plate for Trinidad/Torium Classified Ads Classified Ads 0 Dec-22-2006 07:30 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:49 PM.


 
Outside Hub Partner

©Bloodydecks LLC 2003-2009