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May-15-2007, 05:06 PM
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#13 | | Registered User
Name: Will Vessel: I wish...... Location: NorCal Job:No, I DO NOT work for the DEA
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
Uni-uni or Albright....
Uni-uni quicker to tie than Albright and a little less bulky
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May-15-2007, 05:07 PM
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#14 | | JustJoe13
Name: Joseph Age: 31 Vessel: 18ft Ranger, circa 1978. 12ft aluminum pond skimmin' Bassturd Location: Deep East Texas! Bitches! Job:Mi' No Savvey! Bio: HELLBILLY
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
never had a problem with the old uni uni...if you put a drop of superglue on it and ROLL it between your fingers until its dried(dont stop rolling til its dry) it slides alot easier thru the eyes
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May-15-2007, 06:10 PM
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#15 | | Senior Sales Consultant
Name: Jerry Age: 36 Vessel: Parker 2310 W/A (One day...) Location: Temecula Job:Auto Sales
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
Check out the Reverse Albright aka Worm Knot. Never had a failure yet. A bit of a learning curve, as you really should melt the tag endo of the mono after tying.
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May-21-2007, 07:00 PM
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#16 | | Registered User
Name: Capt. Johnny Walker Vessel: all sizes, makes and models Location: OC and Boston Job:Sales and Fishing
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
We do hundreds of Spectra to Mono/Fluro connections while spooling Reels at Melton and prefer the Worm Knot.
Tie a 12 turn Bimini to form double line in your Spectra; 3' section is fine. Wind your double line up your mono MULTIPLE times until you only have the end double line loop left, feed the mono back up and through this loop..Wet lines...Pull tag end of mono up while also pulling spectra away from knot with strong pressure..Works great on the line spoller but harder on your own.will WORM its way together into an incrediblly strong and low profile knot, leaves only one tag end to trim and cook or glue tight.
No horrow stories or calls back to the shop yet with a failure on the water, hope that continues...
In a pinch I would do the Uni/Uni as a close second, just make sure to wrap your Spectra side 4-5 more times than your mono side..
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May-21-2007, 07:50 PM
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#17 | | Moderator
Name: Kevan Age: 49 Vessel: IMAHO Location: Hemet, Ca Job:Retail Manager Blue Water Tackle in Temecula Bio: Retired Navy
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker We do hundreds of Spectra to Mono/Fluro connections while spooling Reels at Melton and prefer the Worm Knot.
Tie a 12 turn Bimini to form double line in your Spectra; 3' section is fine. Wind your double line up your mono MULTIPLE times until you only have the end double line loop left, feed the mono back up and through this loop..Wet lines...Pull tag end of mono up while also pulling spectra away from knot with strong pressure..Works great on the line spoller but harder on your own.will WORM its way together into an incrediblly strong and low profile knot, leaves only one tag end to trim and cook or glue tight.
No horrow stories or calls back to the shop yet with a failure on the water, hope that continues...
In a pinch I would do the Uni/Uni as a close second, just make sure to wrap your Spectra side 4-5 more times than your mono side.. | Great knot. We do a similar one here with the exception of the end of the mono connection. We double the mono and wrap back up with the bimini. We close the bimini at the top with a half hitch on both sides, (one each strand of mono and strand of spectra then two half hitches around all four lines. Cut spectra, and burn end carefully. It is also very important to not let the spectra twist or wrap over itself as you wrap back up the mono. Much easier to do than it sounds. From there we pull the tag end of the mono, (which has a loop), slowly to ensure both sides of the bimini are of equal length. This is important...there is no point in having the double line if both sides are not of exactly equal length. It is like having two single lines so there is no strength advantage which is the main reason you are tying this knot. When you pull the tag end of the mono through it buries all ends inside with exception of the tag end of the mono which you cut right at the base of the connection...no need to burn this end.
You are right about it working well on the line winder. Another thing you can do is install an eye bolt to your workbench at home of you don't have a line winder. I know it sounds complicated but once you have seen it done, or tried it at home a few times you will see how easy it is to tie. Takes a few minutes tops as you get better at it. Yes it is a little bulky but it works very well. I have never personally seen it fail or had any complaints from customers that it failed...knock on wood.
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May-22-2007, 06:22 AM
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#18 | | Captain
Name: Spike Ivins Age: 33 Vessel: any and all Location: san clemente Job:I do not tell jokes, I only report the facts
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
the Seagear is the strongest, easy to tie as well for flouro to mono.
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May-22-2007, 08:47 AM
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#19 | | Registered User
Name: Raymond ochoa Age: 58 Vessel: 18' crestliner serenity Location: Missoula,Mt Job:studio grip
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
I think that the bimini to albright is the best. If you tie the albright wrong it will fail as soon as you tighten it. If you tie your bimini a little long you can get 3-4 albright out of it before retying. For small tuna the (30-100#) the worm knot is just fine. I like it because you can retie multiple times without doing another bimini. As with all knots make sure you practice them lots before heading out. If all else fails let the deckhands tie for you. They do it every day and they want you to catch fish just as bad as you want to.
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May-22-2007, 09:17 AM
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#20 | | Mansfield to Alijos......
Name: Big Girl, AKA, Miss March Vessel: Chubasco II, Red Rooster 3, Daily Double, Royal Star Location: 9210B Job:C.E.O. Big Girl Productions
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro Quote:
Originally Posted by mziadeh I tie an albright and haven't had any problems 60lb spectra to 40 lb mono/floro and below. | with 2# spotties, I would hope not Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoodad Although this works, I using something else, but won't tell about it until I've caught some real fish on it. Very slick connection, worked well so far on local trips, even hung the bottom codding and it held better than 50# mono. | Dave showed me this knot and I'm excited to see how he does with it and if it holds up to the rigors of bigger fish
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May-23-2007, 01:18 PM
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#21 | | Barking Spider
Name: Mayo Age: 59 Vessel: Gregor 15' for Baja Location: Long Beach Job:teacher/professor Bio: I build wooden tackle boxes
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
They like the bimini albright combo on the Royal Star. I use the bimini to worm knot and love how quickly you can get a very strong connection. The worm with a 3 turn uni finish on the mono has yet to go bad. Last year I was foolish and used 30# at Alijos Rocks. The worm held under substantial pressure that fully bent my 700M (I won't try that one again unless I don't get bit for hours).
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May-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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#22 | | Registered User
Name: Todd Age: 18 Vessel: friends Location: university city Job:student Bio: clean to fish
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
Worm knot.
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Aug-17-2007, 04:59 AM
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#23 | | RiskTaker
Name: Michael Age: 46 Vessel: 31', Allmand, Porgee Rock Location: Pompano Beach, FL Job:Engineer Bio: Swordsfishing Addictive
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
Hey Guys:
There was a recent discussion of using knots for Large monofilament to specctra connections on the Swordfishing Central (SFC) forum where I typically frequent: Midnight Knot (Braid to Mono Connection) - SFC Fishing Forums
A knot called the Midnight was discussed. I was not previously familiar with this knot. After seeing the step by step instructions (even thought in Portugese), it looks like a very robust knot.
Check it out, and let me know what you think and how you may rank it among the other contenders such as: Worm, Bimini (loop to loop), or the Uni-Uni, etc. Here is a link to the knot article: InterMedia Outdoors Forums: Midnight Knot / step by step / leader to line
I need to try this worm knot too. Are there any good step by steps for this worm knot or perhaps I just scanned this thread too quickly? I'll let you know what I think after I have some more experience with them, although my connections are almost always prepared at home with the wind-on leader style and in-line splice, serve and glue, (finger cuff method). But I need to pick my best knot for a faster backup knot in a heaving boat. |
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Aug-17-2007, 06:56 AM
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#24 | | tool
Name: ERIK Age: 39 Vessel: 20' Century Location: COSTA MESA Job:MARINE INDUSTRY
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| Re: Best knot for spectra to mono/flouro
I use the Seagar for mono to floro and a worm for spectra to mono. I agree the worm is next to impossible on the boat. Has anyone tried a Seagar for spectra to floro?
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