Don't be THAT Guy

Freshone21 · Jun-30-2009, 01:00 AM

I was working a 6 pack charter trip about 2 years ago " white seabass / yellowtail san clemente trip " Took me and the captain almost 4 hours to get a full load of live squid that night. By 10 am that morning ' THAT GUY ' had gotten shit faced and decided to cool himself off in our bait tank... I'd say about 20 pieces survived

wils · Jun-30-2009, 06:41 AM

THAT GUY is easy enough to get away from. Fish are all around the boat while THAT GUY can only be in one spot at a time.

Its the POS deckies who think that I need my drag adjusted, tightened, loosened, FREE-SPOOLED while the fish is taking line that have kept me from returning on TWO of the most popular LR boats.

Mongo76 · Jun-30-2009, 11:06 AM

Just remember, the Royal Star, RP, RR#, ETC. is not your boat. You paid just as much as everybody else. Just because you have fished on wichever vessel since Noah built the Ark doesn't mean shit. Do not be the guy who feels you get to boss everyone around or have 15 closed door meetings with the skipper every trip. I was on a Clarion trip with one of these guys and it got real old in a hurry. Consequently when we were droppe doff in Cabo I laughed as that guy wanted to go to the bars with everyone but did not understnd why 21 other people ran from him as fast as they could.

Lake · Jun-30-2009, 04:28 PM

Several years ago I just got back into long range fishing. I had to fly out from FL and did an 8 day early summer trip to the rocks on a boat that's very popular on these boards(don't ask or PM- I won't tell). It was some of the most phenomenal fishing I'd ever experienced- and for me still was the best fishing ever of all but one trip since then. There were a lot of regulars on the trip and they actually slept on the boat the night before. I got on and there was one small space to fit my tackle bag, surrounded by multiple boxes and reel bags, where several of them hung out so I had to almost push my way through to get my stuff. They also didn't like to walk the 2 steps to the trash can so I would find their trash stuffed in the pockets of my bag. One guy in particular strutted around like he was the best on the planet, took the first 20 or so rod holders on one side, brought 3 different size rod belts, and a couple of large tackle boxes. He was the type of guy that was quick to yell "nice cast" at someone who muffed one or would be quick with some words of wisdom to all the lower fishermen.

We had a few days of absolutely wide open fishing at the rocks. I swear I had a 36 hour stretch where every bait I put out was a 40-60 pound yellowfin. When I tried to mix it up a bit I started fishing the yo yo. Every cast but 2 turned into nice yellowtail-the 2 were tuna.

I put out a fresh bait from the port corner, got picked up immediately with a tuna that went nuts straight across the stern. I was immediately following the fish but had a tough time getting past the several guys that were somehow not hooked up. I had to literally push my way through, got to the starboard corner where Mr Professional was strapped in his harness with a tuna straight down in death circles. My fish was wrapped on his when I got there, and he had 2 crew members at his side. He screams "get it off" but with him strapped in I couldn't get my rod around him to unwrap and the crew did nothing but watch as his fish popped off. He screamed at me and said that it was a toad. We had been catching the standard grade fish for 2 days but I guess his was that elusive 400 pounder. He went up and pouted on the bridge with the skipper, and for the next couple of days he treated me like I deflowered his daughter. I could constantly hear him talking not so quietly behind my back. A couple of the crew and the cook all came up to me to say it wasn't my fault and there was nothing I could do but apparently no one said it to him. The funny part is my fish was the standard 40-50 pounder that I had been releasing for 2 days and would have been happy to cut it off if I could have. Things did kind of settle down near the end of the trip and he did tell me nice fish when I got 2nd in the JP.

About 2 weeks later Bruce Smith in one of his reports made a comment about guys that fish with blinders on and could avoid most of the troubles if they just paid attention to guys around them. He also said that a lot of times guys get mad at somebody for costing them a fish when it was really their fault. I'm still a little pissed off about this even though it was like 8 years ago, mainly at the skipper for letting him get out of hand. I went with Bruce on the Shogun the next time and loved it.

Steve K · Jun-30-2009, 04:37 PM

I was fishing a trip in '03 or '04 on the Rooster and talking with Brian about getting in tangles. He said to me: "Steve, have you ever noticed that when you're in a tangle, no matter who else is in it with you or who caused it, YOU are always in the tangle?" I think about that from time to time, and laugh at myself. Try it, very good for easing whatever tension is going on around you.

mikeydez · Jun-30-2009, 04:47 PM

oh shit that was too funny

Swarthy Dago · Jun-30-2009, 04:49 PM

[QUOTE Its the POS deckies who think that I need my drag adjusted, tightened, loosened, FREE-SPOOLED while the fish is taking line that have kept me from returning on TWO of the most popular LR boats.[/QUOTE]

FINALLY someone else knows. This really burn me to the core of my ass. If I want some advise or help I will friggin ask for it. Deck men please read this and watch closer.

**sdangler** · Jun-30-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongo76

Just remember, the Royal Star, RP, RR#, ETC. is not your boat. You paid just as much as everybody else. Just because you have fished on wichever vessel since Noah built the Ark doesn't mean shit. Do not be the guy who feels you get to boss everyone around or have 15 closed door meetings with the skipper every trip. I was on a Clarion trip with one of these guys and it got real old in a hurry. Consequently when we were droppe doff in Cabo I laughed as that guy wanted to go to the bars with everyone but did not understnd why 21 other people ran from him as fast as they could.

Read through the posts again as I think we covered this...

Modlinb2000 · Jun-30-2009, 05:15 PM

LMAO last year on that 5 day the guy trolling didnt have his drag tight enough, didnt have his clicker on and by the time the little old lady told him he had a fish on it was almost spooled. some times its needed lol by the way the same guy wasnt following his bait and kept getting tangled so the crew but a 5 pound weight on and dropped it. Shark was coming and he was working his ass off to get that fish in lol almost killed the poor guy

FishStalker · Jun-30-2009, 07:47 PM

I saw the funniest shit on the chicken on our last trip. If there was a tangle and a couple of folks were clueless that their shit was tangled, the deckie would tie a banana or a can of soda to their hook after they sorted out the tangle and throw it back out.

Funny as shit watching the looks on the faces when they reeled in...

afraser · Jun-30-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpfilippi

[QUOTE Its the POS deckies who think that I need my drag adjusted, tightened, loosened, FREE-SPOOLED while the fish is taking line that have kept me from returning on TWO of the most popular LR boats.

FINALLY someone else knows. This really burn me to the core of my ass. If I want some advise or help I will friggin ask for it. Deck men please read this and watch closer.[/QUOTE]

I also got turned off of one of the LR boats by a deckhand who was just too much of an @ss. There are 8-10 other boats, and I've not had any problem on several of the others, but I will avoid that one boat, at least until that deckhand leaves. And it is one of the boats that is considered "good" on this board. Just not worth spending 10 days on a boat with someone who gives you a hard time, even if it is only once in a while.

Steve K · Jun-30-2009, 09:06 PM

"It's the deck technicians who think that I need my drag adjusted, tightened, loosened, FREE-SPOOLED while the fish is taking line." I've never met That Guy. At least not yet on any of the long range trips I've taken. I have had my drag checked by more than one crew member while on the same fish. It was early in the fight and they just wanted to make sure it wasn't too tight.

I respect these guys and at least give them that respect up front. After all it is their job, and most of these "kids" have forgotten more about fishing than I'll ever know.

I also feel there's a way to go about it like, "Let me check that drag for you. How heavy is this line? And what about the spectra?" Then and only then would it be appropriate for them to adjust your drag or suggest that you adjust it. But to just walk up and tighten it because the fish is taking line, that's not right. Early in the fight, that loose drag won't hurt as much as it will later when you're trying to finish it off. It's when the drag is too tight early that you get the breakoffs. Right?