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Apr-27-2008, 04:05 PM
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Name: Jeffrey Tedmori Age: 15 Vessel: Long Range Location: Orange County Job:Fishing | what size of rod?
going on a 15 dayer in may and i just got a new AVET 50 SDS and i am confused. do i want a shorter or longer rod? what is better for rail fishing? | 
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Apr-27-2008, 04:41 PM
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Name: Jeff Stephens Age: 51 Vessel: Shogun Location: Orange County Job:Carpenter | I use a Seeker Black Steel 6463XXXH on my SDS 50. It has worked great two seasons in a row for tuna over #200. A great rail rod for #130 test. JMO. | |
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Apr-27-2008, 05:06 PM
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Name: Jim Age: 52 Vessel: Partial to the American Angler Location: Poway, Ca. Job:Keeping my boys in quality tackle so they won't use mine Bio: Glad one of my fishing partners got home from chasin the Taliban | Ditto....I used the same with 150 izor = Dead Fish
I think the next one I get will be a 6463XXXH that is uncut...full length at around 6'8". This gives you just that little extra when the death spirals start and you clear the hull of the boat. Some of the guys on my last 10 day had the longer version and it was amazing what 6 more inches could do.
When I got home I told my wife that I was going to get a rod that was 6 inches longer and she got all excited.......I didn't know she liked fishing that much 
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Apr-27-2008, 05:14 PM
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Name: Gregg Vessel: I Wish Location: Orlando Job:Hungry Bio: Transplanted Californian Loyal to West Coast Tackle Enjoying Florida Fishing | | |
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Apr-28-2008, 03:21 PM
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Name: Steve Age: 59 Vessel: 18' Bayrunner Location: Bishop Job:Freelance Exhibitionist | 6463XXXH that is uncut...full length at around 6'8".
3X or 4X? And that sounds custom, who do you have in mind?
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Apr-28-2008, 07:01 PM
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Name: Jim Age: 52 Vessel: Partial to the American Angler Location: Poway, Ca. Job:Keeping my boys in quality tackle so they won't use mine Bio: Glad one of my fishing partners got home from chasin the Taliban | Thanks for volunteering Steve 
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Apr-29-2008, 05:36 AM
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Name: Steve Age: 59 Vessel: 18' Bayrunner Location: Bishop Job:Freelance Exhibitionist | Yes, longer seems to be better for the rail. I'm in the process of lengthening the butts on my 40, 50, 60 and 80 lb rods that I built several years ago so I can use them more effectively on the rail. I built them all with 8" hypalon butt grips and gimbals. I'm adding about 3-4" and finishing them off with rubber butt caps, no gimbal so I have a little more to tuck under my arm. So a little more in the butt is better for me anyway and then that extra length on the rail really helps keep the line off the hull at circle time.
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Apr-29-2008, 05:40 AM
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Name: Billy Casper Vessel: none Location: So. Cal Job:Financial Consultant | Quote:
Originally Posted by riceman1011  going on a 15 dayer in may and i just got a new AVET 50 SDS and i am confused. do i want a shorter or longer rod? what is better for rail fishing? | The advice that already has been given here is right on the mark. The 6463XXXH is the stick that I would use.
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Apr-29-2008, 05:43 AM
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Name: Billy Casper Vessel: none Location: So. Cal Job:Financial Consultant | Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve K 6463XXXH that is uncut...full length at around 6'8".
3X or 4X? And that sounds custom, who do you have in mind? | Steve are you Jim's roomate on the 7 day? If so I hope you sleep on your back, with that extra he's bragging about, well............................. LMFAO!!!!!
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Apr-29-2008, 12:19 PM
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Name: Steve Age: 59 Vessel: 18' Bayrunner Location: Bishop Job:Freelance Exhibitionist | Quote:
Originally Posted by billyc Steve are you Jim's roomate on the 7 day? If so I hope you sleep on your back, with that extra he's bragging about, well............................. LMFAO!!!!! | Oh shit, here we go! Jim's got his buddy Mark for a roommate again this year and I am in with one of the nicest guys and best anglers you'll ever meet, Bob Chapman, "Chappy."
Our rooms are across the hall from each other for sharing of cups, ice, gin, tonic, tequila shots and other important provisions. Iron elbow stikes again!
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Apr-29-2008, 06:41 PM
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Name: Jim Age: 52 Vessel: Partial to the American Angler Location: Poway, Ca. Job:Keeping my boys in quality tackle so they won't use mine Bio: Glad one of my fishing partners got home from chasin the Taliban |
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Apr-30-2008, 05:40 AM
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Name: Billy Casper Vessel: none Location: So. Cal Job:Financial Consultant | Quote:
Originally Posted by titan05 | You opened the door (sorry Steve bad choice of words). All I was trying to do was point out that the extra length of the 6463XXX is worth it, right Jim? 
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Apr-30-2008, 05:57 AM
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Name: Realfisherman Vessel: none Location: Ontheocean Job:Yearoundfisherman | YEP...in other words SHORTER...ae: 6-6.5ft | |
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Apr-30-2008, 06:13 AM
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Name: John Vessel: 23' Grady White G-Spot Location: Salem/OR/USA Job:Construction Contractor | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunahead YEP...in other words SHORTER...ae: 6-6.5ft | 6'5" is not considered short for a rod in that class....
I have a super seeker 63xxxh. Seekers tend to run a little long, so it actuall is a little over 6'5"
Many longe range opinions have been leaning to the longer rods for that little extra length....
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Apr-30-2008, 07:59 AM
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Name: Pam Vessel: None - Can I Fish on Yours...? Location: I Don't Know - I Keep Hitting the ESCAPE button but I'm still HERE...? Job:IT Bio: Newport Landing & Ultra Poster Girl, 976-Tuna.com Pro-Staffer | Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefin grin I use a Seeker Black Steel 6463XXXH on my SDS 50. It has worked great two seasons in a row for tuna over #200. A great rail rod for #130 test. JMO. | Yup, I borrowed a friend's 6463XXXH for a 13 day trip and caught one on that, and also caught a kite fish on another friends 6463XXXXH with an Avet T-RX 50. It seems kind of long, but the guys are right, when they get into that death circle at the end the extra length is a huge help. It also helps when they get up closer to keep the line from scraping the boat... its just a little bit further out and gives you a little more space to get those last few cranks in without scraping the line on the hull....
The 4X I was using also had a section where there's no hyperlon on it, so it slides along the rail easier.... It was specifically made for fishing the rail...
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