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Nov-04-2007, 11:42 AM
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#1 | | Registered User
Name: Robert Patterson Age: 39 Vessel: Missing her already Location: Southern California Job:Electrician
Posts: 146
| Tiger wrap help...
I'm wondering if anyone who has some experience doing tiger-style wraps can help me out with some advice, mostly do's and dont's, especially regarding color combinations. I've tried using a couple color combinations, metalic threads on both top and bottom layers, and various sizes but the end result sems to alawys come out less than expected. For example, I tried using silver metalic over a black and red metalic underlay, and the silver thread totally overwealms the underlay colors. I tried black thread over orange and silver metalic and the black did the same thing, although I have a clear tiger effect, its VERY subdued due to color loss. Can you guys offer any advice, ideally on color combos and procedured to avoid, so I dont have as many failed experiments in the future?
Thanks
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Nov-04-2007, 11:59 AM
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#2 | | Rodbuilder
Name: Jose Vessel: Prowler 13 Location: Long Beach Job:Educator
Posts: 627
| Re: Tiger wrap help...
My first tiger wrap attempt is on the dryer right now. I used black and white NCP in D on the bottom. I applied one layer of finish (I should have gone with 2) and then went right back over it in reverse with the same thread, pulling out the white thread. I am very happy with the results.
I read the article in Rodmaker magazine and the advice Scott gives in the article is to use high contrast colors for the best effect.
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Nov-04-2007, 12:45 PM
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#3 | | Go ROYALS!
Name: Jeff Age: 50 Vessel: Mostly the "Two Kinds O' Pie" Location: Laguna Niguel Job:Bumming rides off of KCKEV Bio: I love SOCAL - and MISSOURI!
Posts: 569
| Re: Tiger wrap help...
Colors are toughest thing about the tiger wrap.
But...use "A" thread and use more than 2 coats on the inbetween flexcoat step. It will aid in the end effect.
Colors...all you can do is experiement.
Jeff Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertKnight I'm wondering if anyone who has some experience doing tiger-style wraps can help me out with some advice, mostly do's and dont's, especially regarding color combinations. I've tried using a couple color combinations, metalic threads on both top and bottom layers, and various sizes but the end result sems to alawys come out less than expected. For example, I tried using silver metalic over a black and red metalic underlay, and the silver thread totally overwealms the underlay colors. I tried black thread over orange and silver metalic and the black did the same thing, although I have a clear tiger effect, its VERY subdued due to color loss. Can you guys offer any advice, ideally on color combos and procedured to avoid, so I dont have as many failed experiments in the future?
Thanks |
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Nov-04-2007, 12:50 PM
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#4 | | Registered User
Name: Robert Patterson Age: 39 Vessel: Missing her already Location: Southern California Job:Electrician
Posts: 146
| Re: Tiger wrap help... Quote:
Originally Posted by tackle junkie My first tiger wrap attempt is on the dryer right now. I used black and white NCP in D on the bottom. I applied one layer of finish (I should have gone with 2) and then went right back over it in reverse with the same thread, pulling out the white thread. I am very happy with the results.
I read the article in Rodmaker magazine and the advice Scott gives in the article is to use high contrast colors for the best effect. | Thats one of the things that threw me about the Rodmaker article. It says to use 4 DIFFERENT colors of thread (one being sacraficial), so I took that to mean that the top thread, or overlay, had to be a different color from the underlay colors.
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Nov-04-2007, 03:32 PM
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#5 | | Mark@AcidRod
Name: Mark Vessel: Yours, lets go! Location: Glendora Job:Rod Parts
Posts: 511
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Robert,
I played with metallics too and didn't get the "pop" i was looking for. The 3D effect seems to get less bold. Same thing happened to me using one of the same colors in the underwrap as the top layer. just no pop.
Contrasting colors and several layers of finish between the layers are what makes the 3D really come out. The further the distance (layers of finish) between the layers, the more of a 3D effect you'll see.
I'm doing one now in SF 49'ers colors Red/black first layer, three coats of finish, then gold (non-metallic) madeira on top. You don't really notice the black. You just see the red & gold and they're moving around like a hologram.
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Nov-04-2007, 04:44 PM
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#6 | | RandMade Custom Rods
Name: Randy Age: 48 Vessel: Parker 2520XLD with twin 150's, Malibu Location: Temecula Job:Professional Rapper
Posts: 1,588
| Re: Tiger wrap help...
Robert,
The more contrasting colors you use in the bottom layer the more pronounced the tiger effect will be. And, like Jeff stated, more finish inbetween the layers adds the depth. The most tiger effect comes from colors like black and white. Any variance from those colors wll alter the tiger look. I like to paint the blank white if I'm using black and white for the first layer because it makes the white "pop" more. Some color combos just work better than others. I too experiment all the time and just did one with metallic gold and metallic purple for the first layer and purple NCP over top. It looks very cool and goes well with the LSU Tigers color-themed rod.
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