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Old Oct-16-2009, 09:16 PM   #13
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Thanks guys. The colors on this thing change pretty substantially between bright sunlight, shade, and interior lights.

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What does the butt (cap) area look like?
What did you put over the top of the CKW, and how is it when it is wet?
Nothing fancy at the buttcap. Smooth grey crutch tip glued on.

Same as that other surf rod CKW. PVC shrink over the top of 60# Yo-Zuri mono. Full structural epoxy underneath at the ends before shrinking. The grips are shaped a bit triangular as well. Figured that gives a bit more bite, both to the PVC and to the hand grip.

If I feel like playing with it later, I'll strip off some or all of the cord. I've something else in mind but could not source it in time to get this out the door.
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Old Oct-16-2009, 09:17 PM   #14
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Nice job Dave , I'd fish it.. Color combo looks great
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There's a little trick involved. Look close and you will see a spiral of material over the blank between the stripper and 1st 180. It is a 3/16" strip of Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene. UHMW PE. Darn close to teflon in slipperiness, but mush more abrasion resistant. Same stuff FedEx lines their chutes with to keep packages rolling along and not get torn up by things like staples. A lot of folks use it to put on surfaces and fences on machinery too.
UHMWPE is what they use to line total joint replacements in medicine too. (artificial knee and artificial hip implant bearing surfaces. slippery tough and durable for many years of wear)
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There's a little trick involved. Look close and you will see a spiral of material over the blank between the stripper and 1st 180. It is a 3/16" strip of Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene. UHMW PE. Darn close to teflon in slipperiness, but mush more abrasion resistant. Same stuff FedEx lines their chutes with to keep packages rolling along and not get torn up by things like staples. A lot of folks use it to put on surfaces and fences on machinery too.

Ok, that makes more sense now. Just because I'm curious I have a follow-up question. Does using that material on the blank produce a "better" spiral wrapped rod than you can achieve using guides? Either way, that rod looks pretty damn sweet and I'm not trying to critique your work, I just like to learn. I'm not a Miami Dolphins fan but if I was that rod would be that much cooler. Good goin.

Also, by UHMW PE I'm assuming that it's just a very long chain polymer of polyethylene with a lot of cross-linking? I guess that's my second follow-up question. I think I'll go consult google and wikipedia now.
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Details, Details ............randy for De Tail...........happy ???...........depends whose story you choose to believe.
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As you can tell from this and others I've done, I'm more macro than micro in decor.
Nice work Dave, gonna have to look hard to criticise & methinks there is plenty of micro in the guide work and setup of the final look.
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Ok, that makes more sense now. Just because I'm curious I have a follow-up question. Does using that material on the blank produce a "better" spiral wrapped rod than you can achieve using guides? Either way, that rod looks pretty damn sweet and I'm not trying to critique your work, I just like to learn. I'm not a Miami Dolphins fan but if I was that rod would be that much cooler. Good goin.

Also, by UHMW PE I'm assuming that it's just a very long chain polymer of polyethylene with a lot of cross-linking? I guess that's my second follow-up question. I think I'll go consult google and wikipedia now.
I like the rubrail for a few reasons reasons:
  • It is as close to the centerline of the rod as I can get. Something like .015" thickness. Closer to the centerline I get, the less detour the line need make to get around the rod. Less detour means a less straighter line path, less side load/abrasion, and more centered on the stripper.
  • By using the rail, the line is free to cross the blank unhindered, at any point it wants. With no load, the line crosses nearer the 1st 180. Under heavy load, it crosses near the stripper.
  • It is darned easy to do. No muss, no fuss, just wind it on. Tough stuff, will never rust. And if I ever needed to, easy to replace.
  • It and the 1st 180 setup I use allow the transition side to be ambidexterous. It works out that one side is better than the other due to the pitch direction of the UHMW spiral, but it isn't different by much.
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Nice work Dave, gonna have to look hard to criticise & methinks there is plenty of micro in the guide work and setup of the final look.
Ah no,,, it's a good 5 footer. A close looksee under magnification has issues here n there. My "Exit Strategy" was fluid But at least the things that I didn't do as I wanted are fairly easy to address. Just depends if they ever annoy me enough that I feel like re-doing things. Probably not. More fun to get into a whole new project.
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Solid work Dave! As usual. Smooth fit and finish!

Liberache played for the dolphins from 76 to 80. He was the guy that played with the center's nuts to get the ball!

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