The many faces of BDSM

Capt. G · Jun-13-2009, 04:34 AM

Same rod/wrap, different camera angles.
It is unbelievable how much this one changes depending on distance and the angle you look at it.

DEA · Jun-13-2009, 09:33 AM

That's super Capt!

Free Spool · Jun-13-2009, 09:56 AM

Those look killer.

Comedie · Jun-13-2009, 10:48 AM

Yeah Greg, it is definitely one of those things that pops. That's why I was messing around with it for so long.

You should show a pic of how basic the underlying thread wrap looks. It can looks dull as anything,,, until the mono is wrapped over it. Changing the mono diameter makes a big difference, but then usually even just using the same mono and wrapping it on again makes a difference.

Lou W · Jun-13-2009, 11:07 AM

Outrageous! Definitely give a walk through on the process.

Comedie · Jun-13-2009, 11:18 AM

Pretty easy Lou. Pick out 2 or more colors of threads, and wrap them on like you would a tiger wrap. Burnish to mess up or or not, your choice. Unburnished works pretty well with this.
Then, trial overwrap with mono the opposite direction you wrapped the bottom. Try different mono diameters and you will get different results, and find the sweet spot you like the most.
Then unwrap the mono. I CP the thread at this point. I don't know if CaptG is doing that or not.
Then, put a thin coat of epoxy over the wrap, tack down the end of your wrapping mono, and just wrap the mono into the wet epoxy,,, and tack down the other end.
Wipe off all epoxy that squeezes out to the surface. CaptG mentioned using a cotton rag and acetone. One I did last night I used paper towel and alcohol. Which ever you do, wipe the surface clean. If you want to see how the effect disappears, then put finish on the top too,,,, then wipe it off before set and see the effect reappear.

**EDIT**... obviously the epoxy/mono combination is going to vary results. Using Threadmaster, for instance, the mono is not very tightly glued down. CaptG mentioned 5 minute epoxy in his variant.

Capt. G · Jun-13-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou W

Outrageous! Definitely give a walk through on the process.

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Originally Posted by Comedie

Pretty easy Lou. Pick out 2 or more colors of threads, and wrap them on like you would a tiger wrap. Burnish to mess up or or not, your choice. Unburnished works pretty well with this.
Then, trial overwrap with mono the opposite direction you wrapped the bottom. Try different mono diameters and you will get different results, and find the sweet spot you like the most.
Then unwrap the mono. I CP the thread at this point. I don't know if CaptG is doing that or not.
Then, put a thin coat of epoxy over the wrap, tack down the end of your wrapping mono, and just wrap the mono into the wet epoxy,,, and tack down the other end.
Wipe off all epoxy that squeezes out to the surface. CaptG mentioned using a cotton rag and acetone. One I did last night I used paper towel and alcohol. Which ever you do, wipe the surface clean. If you want to see how the effect disappears, then put finish on the top too,,,, then wipe it off before set and see the effect reappear.

**EDIT**... obviously the epoxy/mono combination is going to vary results. Using Threadmaster, for instance, the mono is not very tightly glued down. CaptG mentioned 5 minute epoxy in his variant.

Lou, what Dave said. I don't know what I am doing when it comes to this wrap; I have only done a few.
Maybe Dave can put up a tutorial when all the glitches are worked out.

Like Dave mentioned, the base wrap looks really 'dull' compared to after wrapping mono on this.

Finally, I will say that I consider myself a decent (not poor, certainly not good) photographer and have an adequate SLR, complete with different lenses and filters, but I could not capture the overall bithen look of this wrap. It really looks quite nice in person.
One more　thing--I changes colors even in the casting position. I held the rod like I was going to cast. At the overhead angle, it looks Purple and black. At the 45 degree position, it looks orange and green, and just before the completion of the cast, it looks more like abalone shell veneer than thread.

**SALTYDAWG** · Jun-13-2009, 10:10 PM

Sweet!

DenisB · Jun-14-2009, 01:39 AM

Great series of images "G"
really captures the effect of viewing the same BDSM wrap from different angles and the colour shifts.
Its also interesting that the effect from the BDSM wraps is captured by the camera far more than 'tigers ' are..
Guess that is because the 'tiger' effect is an interference effect.... tricking the processing of the information between eye & brain...........whereas the BDSM effect is real colour patches lensed & defracted by the mono........... where the camera makes an approximation of the interference effect, but can directly capture the BDSM effect.

Owen · Jun-14-2009, 04:34 AM

Very nice effect!

Zombie · Jun-14-2009, 09:28 AM

Really cool G. It certainly pops, I'd like to see some pics of it outside in the sun. Randy.

Comedie · Jun-14-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DenisB

Great series of images "G"
really captures the effect of viewing the same BDSM wrap from different angles and the colour shifts.
Its also interesting that the effect from the BDSM wraps is captured by the camera far more than 'tigers ' are..
Guess that is because the 'tiger' effect is an interference effect.... tricking the processing of the information between eye & brain...........whereas the BDSM effect is real colour patches lensed & defracted by the mono........... where the camera makes an approximation of the interference effect, but can directly capture the BDSM effect.

Actually Denis, it is doing both an interference pattern and lensing. If just lensing then a larger mono would always be better, but it doesn't work that way. On the pieces I'm playing with for example (which are large diameter), sometimes 60# looks best but then 80# looks poor, or 80# looks better than either 60# or 100#. So the intereference pattern determined by the various pitches is defintely still in play.