Rod building Thread, Harnell 575 Troller in Fishing Related; Here's the lastest rod I just finished, Harnell 575 shortened by 6", overall length with the Aftco-Uni-Butt 6' 3", Aftco ...  | | 
Jun-12-2009, 01:46 PM
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#1 | | RandMade Custom Rods
Name: Randy Age: 48 Vessel: Parker 2520XLD with twin 150's, Malibu Location: Temecula Job:Professional Rapper
Posts: 1,588
| Harnell 575 Troller
Here's the lastest rod I just finished, Harnell 575 shortened by 6", overall length with the Aftco-Uni-Butt 6' 3", Aftco Big Foot Rollers quad-wrapped (1 under, 3 over), hypalon foregrip, Pearl EX marbling (Brilliant, Aztec, Sparkle). All threadwork size A, Black, Glitzy Gold Metallic and Gold Electra Metallic. Rod is an absolute beast, go get something big on it Pat. Randy.
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Jun-12-2009, 01:48 PM
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#2 | | Registered User
Name: Edward Vessel: , Location: Hermatige Job:Sell customized rubber butt caps for rod builders.
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Isn't that just like what they did to thew 6 Million Dollar man? Great work!
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Jun-12-2009, 02:06 PM
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#3 | | Captain
Name: Bill Age: 53 Vessel: sold it Location: Casa DE Oro Job:contractor/Rod Wrapper
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Sweet! Nice work Randy
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Jun-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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#4 | | Captain Hook
Name: Pat Vessel: 26' Blackman Billfisher(Hungry Dog) Location: Anza Job:Construction
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Great now when I am out trolling I am going to be driving in circles because I will be staring at the two trollers you built me. Amazing work as usual Randy. Thanks
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Jun-12-2009, 04:01 PM
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#5 | | RandMade Custom Rods
Name: Randy Age: 48 Vessel: Parker 2520XLD with twin 150's, Malibu Location: Temecula Job:Professional Rapper
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Two words "auto pilot."
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Jun-12-2009, 04:07 PM
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#6 | | :) happy
Name: Jason Vessel: 1 Location: 1 Job:1 Bio: 1
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cool rod
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Jun-12-2009, 04:13 PM
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#7 | | Captain Hook
Name: Pat Vessel: 26' Blackman Billfisher(Hungry Dog) Location: Anza Job:Construction
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Originally Posted by Zombie  Two words "auto pilot." | I never leave without it
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Jun-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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#8 | | Registered User
Name: Owen Dare Age: 45 Vessel: 4.5 metre Quintrex Location: Gladstone, Queensland, Australia Job:Software Developer
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Almost a shame to smudge that thing with salt spray.
Great looking rod.
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Jun-12-2009, 04:53 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
Name: Mike Age: 25 Vessel: 17 ft Grady White CC Location: San Diego Job:Chemical Engineer, Aspiring Rod Builder
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Nice looking trolling rod Randy. I noticed that you used size-A thread on it too. All of the ocean rods I've been doing have been size-D thread over the guides and I've been doing a triple wrap(under-wrap and two over-wraps). I would like to use size-A though because it looks a lot nicer I think, especially with colored threads. When you use size-A for your guide wraps do you always do 3-layers over the guide? Is there any compormise of strenght when using size-A if you do the three top layers like you did? Also what i've found is that when I do two layers of D-size thread over the guides towards the tip of the rod, it makes the wraps a little too bulky and that's another reason I want to try size-A. What do you think? Thanks.
-Mike
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Jun-12-2009, 07:33 PM
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#10 | | RandMade Custom Rods
Name: Randy Age: 48 Vessel: Parker 2520XLD with twin 150's, Malibu Location: Temecula Job:Professional Rapper
Posts: 1,588
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Originally Posted by bass_blaster Nice looking trolling rod Randy. I noticed that you used size-A thread on it too. All of the ocean rods I've been doing have been size-D thread over the guides and I've been doing a triple wrap(under-wrap and two over-wraps). I would like to use size-A though because it looks a lot nicer I think, especially with colored threads. When you use size-A for your guide wraps do you always do 3-layers over the guide? Is there any compormise of strenght when using size-A if you do the three top layers like you did? Also what i've found is that when I do two layers of D-size thread over the guides towards the tip of the rod, it makes the wraps a little too bulky and that's another reason I want to try size-A. What do you think? Thanks.
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Mike,
I use A thread for just about everything. The only exception is I use a larger wrapping thread (B or C) on the weaves and the larger thread is sometimes nice for inlays. I just prefer the A because I think that it looks more crisp (inlays, color changes, etc.). And, it's not quite as bulky as you've found out.
As far as strength, I doubt you'll notice any difference. I've heard mixed things on thread size strengths and have even heard that more wraps of A vs a larger thread size is actually stronger. Whether that's true or not I couldn't tell you. I've never really done any kind of test so I wouldn't know for sure. Somebody that's actually done some sort of comparison of the sizes could tell you better than I.
I don't always do triple overwraps. I do triple overwraps on all the rods with rollers and doubles on all the other SW rods. Singles on the lighter FW stuff. Just how I feel comfortable doing it. Triples are probably way overkill but that's the way I was originally shown and that's how I prefer to do it. Double wraps are probably plenty strong enough for the rollers. Everybody has their own way of doing things, that's just how I do it. Randy.
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Jun-12-2009, 10:09 PM
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#11 | | Registered User
Name: Raymond Age: 51 Vessel: Some day maybe Location: Sacramento, CA Job:Cable Guy Bio: So.Cal. native, raised in da "Valley". Stomping grounds were Marina Del Rey, Hermosa, Redondo, & sometimes Long Beach.
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Awesome work as always Randy. Fit & finish supremo!
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Jun-13-2009, 03:44 PM
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#12 | | Registered User
Name: Mike Age: 46 Vessel: none Location: Oceanside Job:USMC
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Randy, Rod looks much better in person. Thanks for helping me out yesterday. It was good to see you and Pat. Your ideas on painting the blanks are very interesting. I could not believe how well some of the color combos came out. I think you guys are on to something.
Took Jakob and the dog fishing this morning. We managed half a dozen croakers and one sand bass. Fun anyway. Talk to you soon. Mike
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