Guadalupe Outfit

TunaTommy · Mar-18-2008, 08:16 PM

Based upon the few times we have fished Guadalupe on 5-day summer trips, it seems that 40lb outfits see the most use. What would you veterans here consider the optimal outfit for fishing the 'lupe? We use Cal-Star 700H rods, Saltiga 50 reels, 40lb P-Line CXXX Blue, and Owner 3/0 hooks. We have had good success with these outfits. But is there a better way to go?

TT

ifishinxs · Mar-18-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TunaTommy

Based upon the few times we have fished Guadalupe on 5-day summer trips, it seems that 40lb outfits see the most use. What would you veterans here consider the optimal outfit for fishing the 'lupe? We use Cal-Star 700H rods, Saltiga 50 reels, 40lb P-Line CXXX Blue, and Owner 3/0 hooks. We have had good success with these outfits. But is there a better way to go?

TT

You've got it nailed down with that set up.

None of this is better but Just a preference thing for me.

I will use a 765 L with an Accurate 2B 870 for 40lb and a 765 M/L with an Accurate 2B 665 for 50lb.. All set up rail rod style. Throw in a 700 M and a Accurate 270 for 30lb..and a BTG90J with a Newell 332 loaded with 40lb for my Jig rod.

The CXX is good line. You might try IzorLine in Blue..Maybe Ringed 3/0 hooks and some Floro just in case.

Phat Boat · Mar-18-2008, 08:47 PM

The Avet JX or LX 2 speed is not a bad choice either.

SpikeCB22 · Mar-18-2008, 11:39 PM

pro gear(larger size, senator sized-drags) should work too.

Yellowtail Dan · Mar-19-2008, 05:30 AM

Flourocarbon was made for the lupe and makes a huge difference when the bite goes scratchy there.

TunaTommy · Mar-19-2008, 06:59 AM

Yellowtail Dan,

Why does flourocarbon make a difference?

TT

Derfsondeck · Mar-19-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TunaTommy

Yellowtail Dan,

Why does flourocarbon make a difference?

TT

My guess is because tuna have huge eyes and can see your line.Fluoro is mostly invisible.All I know is I wont fish for them without it,especially at the 'Lupe.

TunaTommy · Mar-19-2008, 08:01 AM

Derfsondeck,

How do we know what fish can see?

Let's assume fish can see line, how do they know what the hell it is? How can fish, which are purely instinctual and completely w/o deliberative capability, connect line to danger? And why would a fish discriminate against line but not the far more dangerous3/0 hook?

Based solely upon empirical data, I would opine fluoro catches more fishermen than fish. However, if I were able to peruse scientific research that establishes cause and effect, I would modify my conclusion.

TT

TunaTommy · Mar-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Derfsondeck,

BTW, I have caught my share of Yellow Fin Tuna @ The Lupe, all w/o fluoro.

Take care,

TT

el capo · Mar-19-2008, 09:31 AM

The best thing fluro is for is wear during a long fight.I do not see it ness. in all situations,but I do use it alot.

fshholc · Mar-19-2008, 10:06 AM

The abrasion resistance is the big positive. A well presented bait that looks natural and swims natural is really the key. Too heavy of line(Fluro or otherwise) or large hooks don't look natural will affect the presentation. The overall equation for catching has many variables. Fluro only solves one of them. We all fall for the hype on fishing products. My arsenal is full of things I can't believe I bought. I'm getting better!!!!

TunaTommy · Mar-19-2008, 10:57 AM

fshholc,

I could not agree more. I have been hooked by hype, and my tackle collection is proof!

I agree that presentation of bait is crucial in the fish catching equation. But I still believe that the two dominant variables are: 1, instinct to eat; 2, natural predatory instinct.

I have seen wide open albie bites where bait was consumed the second it hit water.

Fish are not intelligent. They lack wherewithal to so be intelligent. In the grand scheme of nature, fish have to occupy a spot just above insects and beneath rodents. I have never in my life heard of anyone training a fish to do anything.

TT