old Newell p454 needs tune up

ddratler · Mar-14-2008, 02:15 PM

last week my non fishing buddy gave me an old newell p454 his dad used to use
its definitely in need of some repairs, probably new bearings, washers, and a good clean up, and lube
i saw the thread on here about cleaning and greasing newells but seeing that ive never had to seriously repair a reel id rather a pro deal with it

is there anyone on this forum that i could mail the reel to, to fix up (id pay for the extra or new parts if needed, and some cash for labor)
or maybe a local reel repair shop that is trustworthy, gives fair prices and will do a good job

there are a couple of reel repair shops down here in florida but i called them up and they havnt even heard of newell reels before

can anyone help me?
Dani D

SDtone · Mar-14-2008, 02:20 PM

pm alantani, he might be able to help you out.
Newell - Bloodydecks.com

sdfishkiller · Mar-14-2008, 02:23 PM

The guts of a Newell look almost exactly like a Penn. The 454 should be a 4/0 size, so the drags for a Penn 113H are the ones. Your shop will probably have the bearings that fit too. Your local shop can fix it very easily. Look at the reel tutorial forum too.

alantani · Mar-14-2008, 02:24 PM

dani, i'd be happy to, but they're very simple to work on. Newell - Bloodydecks.com you've got mail!

baja tailhunter · Mar-14-2008, 02:44 PM

some older newell 454 have penn 500 size drags.sav-on tackle in so. ca. has all the parts you will need.

MATTANZA · Mar-15-2008, 09:31 PM

That reel has500 size innards.

ddratler · Mar-15-2008, 10:37 PM

you guys have inspired me to try and fix it
and if things dont go to well alantani ill give you a call
maybe i could get a hold of a digital camera and take some pics as i fix it, to post up

ddratler · Mar-27-2008, 02:51 PM

am placing an order at smooothdrags.com should i buy the 18$ ceramic bearings or the 9$ stainless ones?

Produce Man · Mar-27-2008, 04:28 PM

Dude, get 4 sets drag washers and 4 sets of stainless bearings and you're good til August...maybe.

ddratler · Mar-27-2008, 05:18 PM

so you say i should get the stainless over ceramic?

dan1 · Mar-27-2008, 05:35 PM

ddratler,

reels are simple to work on if you have any mechanical abilities. i never worked on reels before and fixed mine up fine. if newells have penn guts, then you have nothing to worry about fixing it yourself.

ddratler · Mar-27-2008, 06:32 PM

ive already decided that id fix it but i need to know weather to get ceramic or stainless bearings?
what are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

GUERO67 · Mar-27-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddratler

ive already decided that id fix it but i need to know weather to get ceramic or stainless bearings?
what are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

go stainless for the old Newell, no need for ceramics. Ceramics are better suited for dispersing heat, so unless you're going to be overfishing the reel, stick with s/s

ddratler · May-07-2008, 03:08 PM

i followed Alantani's rebuild thread and put in new drag washers and bearings, greased and oiled all the spots it said to, and put the reel back together

still though when i crank the reel theres alot of tension and its harder to reel.
also when i put the reel in freespool and give the spool a spin, it dosnt even spin for one second
does anyone know how to fix this????????

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Lavaboy · May-07-2008, 10:49 PM

Sorry ignore the pm I sent you. On the left side plate there is a bearing cap. Make sure its loose so the spool has some side play about a hair or so. On the right side(gear) plate make sure the bearing cap is screwed in tight. This might fix the free spool operation. On the cranking, something is binding the gear shaft. Make sure the gear washers with ears a seating in there slots properly. SS bearing are stronger but Ceramic cast smoother.