Grease for bearings in a Newell 533?

Moleculo · Jun-06-2008, 08:12 PM

One of the bearings went out in my 533, so I picked up a new set. They seem like they came bone dry. From reading all of Alantani's tutorials, it seems apparent that I should open them up and grease 'em. What grease is recommended for bearings? I oiled them with corrosion x, but I'm concerned that this just won't offer any protection.

coryellk · Jun-06-2008, 08:39 PM

Cal's grease for non-spool bearings. ReelX or Black Market for spool bearings. If you grease spool bearings they won't spin for squat.

alantani · Jun-06-2008, 08:58 PM

what kevin said!

Moleculo · Jun-06-2008, 09:34 PM

Thanks for the quick response guys. For some reason I was having a brain fart and thought I should grease the spool bearings (which I've never done before) instead of using a good oil.

YANK N CRANK #2 · Jun-06-2008, 09:59 PM

What about speed x???

alantani · Jun-06-2008, 11:09 PM

lots of products work here. basically, i use corrosion x exclusively. compared to the other products, it's like pancake syrup. for tournament bass guys, we'll talk about their casting requirements and usually go with a lighter lube. good products include quantum's hot sauce, smoothdrag's metaloil, rocket fuel and this other super thin stuff who's name escapes me right now. the lighter products spin well but do not provide saltwater corrosion protection. that's the trade off. if you are set up to pull the left side plate of your reel and clean/lube the bearings after every trip, use the light stuff! alan

coryellk · Jun-08-2008, 01:12 PM

I used to use corrosion x exclusively. I eventually noticed that corrosion x; when sprayed in a shot glass and left there, thickens on standing to the consistency of syrup. It's pretty thick stuff really. Reel X is like lighter corrosion X and more suited for spool bearings. One can go even lighter, like Black Market, Hot Sauce, Rocket Fuel etc but your protection goes down with viscosity. It really boils down to how often you break down and clean/inspect your reels. All my conventional gear gets a clean/inspect after every fishing trip, maybe every other trip at the most. My bass/inshore stuff gets broken down every 4 or 5 trips. Because of this frequency, I don't ever grease my bearings. Non-spool shaft bearings get corrosion x and the spool shaft bearings get a drop of Black Market and a drop of Xtreme Reel+. My freespool times are very respectable. I have experimented with only using Xtreme Reel+ on the spool bearings. They spin incredibly well, with freespool time greater than three minutes, but it spins out or evaporates quickly and freespool times significantly drop. I also can't help but think that nothing is protecting my bearings when that happens as well. I guess the bottom line is to use the product that is suited to your maintenance habits.

Lavaboy · Jun-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Here's my BIG secret! Think of a cars crankshaft bearings, rod bearings, cam bearings etc.... These bearings needs to hit very high rpms. Reel spools can triple that of a standard 6-10,000 rpms. Lubrication and viscosity in the right oil is what you need. Ok guyz this will change you over I garantee you. All spool bearings if you're a caster like me needs to be reoiled constanly. If just crank baiting then grease is fine. I remember back in the early 80's when nano technology came out in oils and that metals are porous and can absorb thin (nano) layers of molecular coats of oil. Remember that chevy 454 bigblock they drained all the oil out while redlining and it ran forever? I've been using ProLong in by bearings for 20 years now. Most of my old penns and newells still have the original bearings in them. And they still spin like never before. I use it on all bearings. Do Alan's bearing cleanout, open them shoot em out with carb cleaner. I only open one side of the bearing. Soak the bearing in prolong for a few minutes or just add a couple drops and spin the bearing a few times let it coat good. Wipe off the excess. For spool bearings I then soak it in some 40 or 50w engine oil then wipe off the excess. The thick oil is use for retention. 40 and 50w is still thin enough to not slow down the bearing but keep the oil in when casting. And I put the bearing back in with the open side facing (outward)the side plate. Other bearings you grease over. You will actually see old bearings come back to life. But like a new engine there is bearing/race break in. Take your new reel out fishing a couple times first then do ProLong oiling. ProLong is an teflon additive so you can mix it with your Corrosion X etc... Guyz, you can stick this one in your note book

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FishandGrits · Jun-08-2008, 08:43 PM

I've always used silicone grease, One application is pretty good, for a long fucking time.

John F Jensen · Jun-08-2008, 10:09 PM

CORYELLK,

The CorrosionX tech told me that it and ReelX are the same. You said they are different - was the CorrosionX tech wrong?

fuj · Jun-09-2008, 12:18 PM

I've also heard that Corrosion-X and Reel-X are the same product, just labeled differently. Speed-X is the different one, made for spool bearings.

coryellk · Jun-09-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F Jensen

CORYELLK,

The CorrosionX tech told me that it and ReelX are the same. You said they are different - was the CorrosionX tech wrong?

Same company, similar product, just different viscosities. Notice that ReelX retains a light machine oil viscosity while CorrosionX will thicken considerably on standing. There is also a more viscous spray variety in the blue labeled spray can (vice the red of CorrosionX or ReelX) that is almost waxy when sprayed on vehicle suspension components. Boeshield T-9 also gets waxy and thick when allowed to dry. It's great for reel spools before putting spectra on. I also use it for the insides of my reel sideplates. It's easier to clean out than brushed-on drag grease. Good luck, Kevin