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Old May-04-2008, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Difference in Daiwa's

Thinking about these 2 and wondering what the main differences are (other then price).
Saltist STT 30TH
Saltiga SA 30
Thanks for any input.
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Old May-04-2008, 03:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the 30 is a wide spool standard profile reel kinda similar to the avet mxl in star drag
the 30 T is a narrow width spool with tall walls kinda similat to the avet mxj in star drag.. hope this answers your question

ST30= bait rig
ST30T=jig reel

if you tell us what your using it for we could point you in the right direction
what r u using it for
what line test
what kind of fishing
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Old May-04-2008, 03:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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upgrade

Just putting some gear together to get out on the water first time in many years. Got a couple of Penns that were Newelled inside-out but that was in 70 so figured might have to catch up in the reel dept. Looking to hook this reel up to an old glass Sabre stick 670 20-50lb that I used for some iron. Got some gear that looks like it was caught in a time warp always stored and cared for.
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Old May-04-2008, 03:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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your penns will work just fine
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Old May-04-2008, 03:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yo Dennis,

The Saltists are a great line of reel for a great price. I am not a big narrow reel guy so the comparison might be the Saltist 30 to the Saltiga 30. The Saltiga is made like a fine watch that can take a likin and keep on tickin. The Saltists are wonderful as well but not quite the precision of the Saltiga. I believe you will also find a difference in gear ratio's. The Saltists have high speed and high torque versions. The Saltiga has what it has. In a 30 size reel I have found no need to purchase the Saltiga going with 2 Saltists for roughly the same price. That said, if money was no object those Saltiga Reels are magnificent. I do believe you will find both Daiwa's will blow those Penns away. One other advantage of the Daiwa's is you can set the crank arm at its longest length and get some off the hook leverage. The reels can easily take it as both the Saltist and Saltiga is built to last.

Good luck with your decisions

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Old May-04-2008, 04:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Saltiga = machined parts
Saltist = Cast Parts

Both are great reels and head and shoulders above the other import competition...
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Old May-04-2008, 04:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Time Warp

I guess my equipment isn't the only thing that got stuck in the time warp! The last time I looked we just spooled up with mono but I see now the Spectra-top shot mono is the accepted method. From what I searched out it seems the small Diam Spectra goes on with a 'long leader' of mono tied to it. Found this deal with free line for the Saltist.Dawww.anglerscenter.com/reels_daiwa_saltist.htmiwa Saltist Reels
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Old May-04-2008, 08:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dennis,

Before you go buy anything do a bit of reading on this and some of the other boards about what type of spectra, hollow or solid, and how much top shot for which application. Bait fishing will use a much shorter top shot of mono/flouro while casting jigs will use a longer top shot. Most importantly is to determine the difference between hollow and solid for the application you desire. Learn about loop to loop connections for hollow vs. back to back uni's, Bimini's, Albrights, Worm knots, etc which are used to connect the mono to solid. I would guess the deal you are referring to uses solid spectra. Again, nothing wrong with solid if that is the direction you wish to go but it is worth learning about before you make decisions.

Depending on the type of fishing you will be doing using the 30 size reel, solid may work great for you. After reading about how to use it for bait fishing you may decide to pay your tackle shop extra and get more spectra on the reel using a shorter top shot. Again, read all you can as it really is very interesting learning.

If you have any questions you can PM me on this site or some others.

Best of luck

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Old May-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks

Thanks to all for the input! Espically Jamie who made me put my wallet away come to my senses...lol I am def going to take your advice and learn a little more before I decide!
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Old May-06-2008, 06:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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dennisthe12c,

We saltwater fish only Daiwa and Penn reels. For overnight trips, Saltist will work fine provided bluefin is not encountered as was the case with us five or more years ago. But for albies and yellowtail that do not require yanking away from structure, just about any reel will work. We have a couple Saltiga reels which we use extensively on five-day trips to 'lupe. Make no mistake, there is substantial difference in manufacture. Saltiga reels are built for heavy battle.

The old adage, we do get what we pay for. If you plan on multi-day trips, buy the absolute best you can afford. A few hundred more bucks on a reel will be worth the peace of mind.


Good fishing,

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Old May-06-2008, 09:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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point taken!

Thanks for that input, TT. I must admit I have never scrimped on tackle yet. Your point makes sense!
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Old May-06-2008, 10:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dennis, don't discount how good those Penns work! Thanks to a couple guys on this board, I discovered a renewed faith / love for my old Penn Jigmasters. I have a completely Newelled out 501, a complete Accurated 501, and a bone stock (except the drags) ancient 500, all of which are pristine. I also have plenty of new reels too. I just use them all for their intended purpose.

You're in Pasadena near me...go over to Johnny's and get some updated drags for each reel if they haven't been changed already. They're about $4 per reel. I see you have the schematic out, so I'm sure you can replace them yourself. Then go fishing and use them while you're trying to decide on what you like that is more modern.

Talk to Bobby at Johnny's and get his input on different reels and what you're going to use them for. I've been going to that shop with my dad since Bobby's dad, Johnny was running it (you can still catch him or his wife there occasionally) and they are very, very knowledgeable and free-flowing with information. They don't know me....but I've been going there for probably 25 years, off and on. Don't buy the first thing that catches your eye. Spend hours in there with different reels and have them mount them on rods.

BTW you can use spectra on those old reels, also.

You live real close to me...if you wanna hook up to go fishing or need some help with the penn reels or just want me to show you what some other fishing fool uses, let me know. It's always cool to meet Bloodydeckers that live so close.
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