Why Texas is better than CA

[Spiltbeerpirate]

As I person that has lived in both states....this is one of the reasons I left Texas. I understand defending your home and property, but damn, they didn't even take her into custody.

Originally Posted by vinsp

Woman Kills Suspected Car Burglar

Shooting Happened At Pinemont Forest Apartments


POSTED: Tuesday, November 3, 2009
UPDATED: 10:01 am CST November 3, 2009

HOUSTON -- A woman fatally shot a man who was breaking into her car, police told KPRC Local 2.
Houston police said the woman spotted a 19-year-old in the parking lot of the Pinemont Forest Apartments in the 5900 block of Pinemont Street at about 9 p.m. Monday.
The woman retrieved a shotgun and fired one time, police said.
The man suffered a gunshot wound to the head and died at the scene. His name was not released.
The woman was questioned and released without charges.



Pregnant Woman Kills Theft Suspect - Houston News Story - KPRC Houston

[SEAKITTENKILLER]

Originally Posted by Spiltbeerpirate

As I person that has lived in both states....this is one of the reasons I left Texas. I understand defending your home and property, but damn, they didn't even take her into custody.

As a person who has lived in both states, this is one of the few things I miss about Texas.


An armed society is a polite society.

[nmbrinkman]

While I hate to hear that someone died. I'm sure that theft won't be too much of an issue in that neighborhood for a while.

If you have a shotgun, maybe a beanbag round would be just as effective? If you're a thief you definetely wouldn't want to die but also, the posibility of a beanbag round traveling at 300 ft/sec hitting you square in the back may also be enough of a deterent to avoid the same neighborhood. Two rounds wouldn't hurt either. And as a "just in case", round #3 and #4 could be some 00 buck shot.

With that said, I don't like the idea of using less than leathal force against criminals. Dead men tell no tales (in a court of law). But it does seem deadly force may be a bit much for someone breaking into your car. I've had someone break into my wive's car outside our window. We didn't catch the thief and there was nothing of value to steal inside but had I caught them, I don't think I would of pulled the trigger unless they reached for something that I thought might harm me.

[SEAKITTENKILLER]

Originally Posted by nmbrinkman

While I hate to hear that someone died. I'm sure that theft won't be too much of an issue in that neighborhood for a while.

If you have a shotgun, maybe a beanbag round would be just as effective? If you're a thief you definetely wouldn't want to die but also, the posibility of a beanbag round traveling at 300 ft/sec hitting you square in the back may also be enough of a deterent to avoid the same neighborhood. Two rounds wouldn't hurt either. And as a "just in case", round #3 and #4 could be some 00 buck shot.

With that said, I don't like the idea of using less than leathal force against criminals. Dead men tell no tales (in a court of law). But it does seem deadly force may be a bit much for someone breaking into your car. I've had someone break into my wive's car outside our window. We didn't catch the thief and there was nothing of value to steal inside but had I caught them, I don't think I would of pulled the trigger unless they reached for something that I thought might harm me.

Personally, I would never load a beanbag but that's just me. Like you said, dead men tell no tales.....they don't come looking for revenge either. Would I put someone in the ground in CA for breaking into my car? Probably not, simply because I have a family who depends on me and it would be hard to support them from jail. Would I put them down in TX? Absolutely. I've worked too hard for the stuff I own and I intend on keeping it. Hell, if I were in TX and saw the thief a week later holding my stuff I would have every right to shoot to kill.

Maybe I'm a bit too far on this one but I think criminals tend to get too many rights nowadays.


Or maybe it's just winter so I have time to think about this kind of crap.

[Spiltbeerpirate]

I agree it is legal under Texas Law, just don't agree that deadly force should be authorized for that unless the person is afraid for their own life like in a car jacking. Lady probably shot the kid in the back too.

Originally Posted by sansou

TEXAS LAW

§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.


Facts: The lady saw someone breaking in to her car ("...reasonably believes"). It was 9PM ("theft at night"). Car was being stolen ("escaping with property"), and the owner is a pregnant female ("....expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.")

Yep. From what little I know, it sounds kosher to me, under TEXAS law.

Seems kind of moot arguing the validity of another state's laws, given the fact that the citizens of that state democratically voted in the legislature that enacted the statute.

This same statute, in California, plus lobster season: lot of dead people.

[UnReel]

"An armed society is a polite society. "

Realy , Isn't Texas the state where the asian guy was shot dead for knocking on the wrong door by mistake ?? I guess if your the right ilk your good in Texas but if your not , your fair game. Been to texas and the people where cool as hell and it was nice to have everyone wave and say hi as the passed but half the people I see where ever I travel shouldn't be able to drive a car non the less own a gun and make a decison on who lives or dies.

Ilk= same family, class or kind ?? By the way so what family class or kind lives in Texas and not elseware ?

[marlyn]

Originally Posted by Blackfish

I LOVE Texas (even thought/thinking about moving there)...but that right there is "Murder". Sorry.

Breaking into her house..shoot away, "seeing" a person breaking into your car....MURDER. Black and White in my book. AND no, I am not a Democrat.

he started it,dont do the crime if you cant do the time...

[johnnylite]

Originally Posted by marlyn

he started it,dont do the crime if you cant do the time...

That's what Barreta said. Do you think maybe one person who thought about being a low life stinking thief would maybe think twice now? My guess would be yes. As far as Texans I have never met a better group of people. Long as you know and understand the rules you're o.k. break them and there's consequences. Beats the 25 till you die on my dime Murderers and rapists here in La la fornia. I'm a native but would go back to Texas in a minute.

[Spiltbeerpirate]

"I'm a native but would go back to Texas in a minute."


Hey, the I-10 will take you right there in about 22 hrs, nobody is stopping you! .

[skipjack-20]

Originally Posted by Blackfish

I LOVE Texas (even thought/thinking about moving there)...but that right there is "Murder". Sorry.

Breaking into her house..shoot away, "seeing" a person breaking into your car....MURDER. Black and White in my book. AND no, I am not a Democrat.

What a bs statement, murder? more like self defense.

What if the mother fucker raped her and then killed her, then what would you say?

one less thug for the public to pay for his three hot's and a cot.

[johnnylite]

First of all if I had a job there I'm off. Second everbody f's different. Texas and California are just different not better not worse just different. It's more about a lifestyle thing. If this story was about Iraq or some Arab state it would talk about cutting off hands. Shit happens because we let it. Texas is just a little more direct in their approach.

[Sherm]

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Good shootin lady. And let that be a lesson to the rest of you comes to mind here.