Fort Hood Under Attack!

**Marcus** · Nov-06-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lynndeva

too bad you didn't post the whole thread....

It's not hard to find.

I didn't take any of your words out of context either.

Those are your words that you stand by.

Nice job......

lynndeva · Nov-06-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

It's not hard to find.

I didn't take any of your words out of context either.

Those are your words that you stand by.

Nice job......

yes, those are my words, based on facts and I do stand by them.

PeskaHunter · Nov-06-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nmbrinkman

I don't think it's a coincidence that out of 548,000 US Army Soldiers that the shooter randomly falls into the .002% of the Army. I think wether we like it or not his religion does play a role and I'm not going to tip toe around the issue. I'm not saying muslims shouldn't be allowed in the military. Like Japanese Americans in WWII, I think having muslims on our side could be very beneficial. I just think if you've got one who's:
-ready to deploy
-has gotten bad performance reviews
-gotten into arguements with fellow soldiers about the war
-probably has voiced his unwillingness to deploy
probably shoulda been on someone's "radar".

Also added he had been disciplined for preaching to his patients and staff non-stop and voiced may complaints about the wars.

IMHO this is ALL Smoke. He is simply a Asshat who used his " Beliefs" as an excuse to not do his job. This has NOTHING to do with Islam or Muslims or Terrorists. Simply one nut who is too chickenshit to do his job and not just sit around getting fat off Uncle Sams Free education and bennies.

BUT As you all see a certain "news network" is already trying to use this for Political Reasons and as of this morning a certain Party has published at least 3 Fear mongering statements that our Military has been infiltrated by terrorists.

Pitiful

Spicy Tuna · Nov-06-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

Your words speak volumes.

You're comparing communists and nazis to muslims? Nice leap there.

You are a bigot whether you like it or not. Being bigotted against another religion is no better than hating someone because of their skin color. It is also incredibly un-american. People have fought and died for our freedom of religion.

As the owner of the site so eloquently said:

In all fairness it wasn't technically "her" words........

How many muslims are Jehadists ??? Read the answer !! - Reader comments at Daniel Pipes

PeskaHunter · Nov-06-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

It's not hard to find.

I didn't take any of your words out of context either.

Those are your words that you stand by.

Nice job......

Whats wrong Marcus?? A Woman telling you whats up too much for you to take?

Your arguments are weak as usual and sound like your usual " I know everything so you must be wrong"

We all do notice all of your posts and pontifications start with the word "I"

Careful... She looks like she could also kick your sad little ass too

**Marcus** · Nov-06-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nmbrinkman

I don't think it's a coincidence that out of 548,000 US Army Soldiers that the shooter randomly falls into the .002% of the Army. I think wether we like it or not his religion does play a role and I'm not going to tip toe around the issue. I'm not saying muslims shouldn't be allowed in the military. Like Japanese Americans in WWII, I think having muslims on our side could be very beneficial. I just think if you've got one who's:
-ready to deploy
-has gotten bad performance reviews
-gotten into arguements with fellow soldiers about the war
-probably has voiced his unwillingness to deploy
probably shoulda been on someone's "radar".

I do agree that there seemed to be some warning signs that should have been noticed.

I'm off on a tangent now:

There was a shooting in May in Baghdad by a US service member who killed 5 comrades. He wasn't muslim, he was a christian yet people don't go screaming that it was because of christianity that he killed people.

Bad people are part of every religion but for some to try to paint the entire religion as wrong because of the actions of a select few is totally wrong.

We interned thousands of japanese during the second world war and made them scapegoats, yet we did not do the same for german americans or italian americans. Why not? It was easier to scapegoat them because they looked different.

All we're seeing now is muslims being scapegoated due to their religion or the way they look. Hell sikhs were attacked as being muslims because they wore a turbin. They are not even in the same religion yet because they were different they were lumped in by racists and bigots.

The point being is that we have a history of creating scapegoats in our culture whether we like to believe it or not. The irish, italians germans, chinese, japanese, mexicans, etc. have all been part of this. The scapegoat flavor of the month right now is muslims. Hopefully people can actually look past prejudices. There are hundreds of thousands of muslims who are proud americans and there are also those who fight in our military for our freedoms. Don't lump those that are good in with one bad apple.

aaronj · Nov-06-2009, 10:37 AM

Pissing contests on BD everyday now.

Winter is officially here.

BuMMER.

Aaron

tighthead_lock · Nov-06-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lynndeva

I talk education, history and facts, .... But some people use racism as a scapegoat for everything

I'd like to see some actual proof behind those "facts". and links to the John Birch society arent proof.

Spicy Tuna · Nov-06-2009, 10:37 AM

I think we need to keep this thread on context. Many people are seeking this thread for information about what happened. Not a pissing contest. It's a horriable thing that happened and although some of you don't agree with opinions thats exactly what they are. Anyway I personally don't thing the shooter should have been kept alive sucking up more of our resources. Should have been killed. We don't need someone like that living in our society.

**Marcus** · Nov-06-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PeskaHunter

Also added he had been disciplined for preaching to his patients and staff non-stop and voiced may complaints about the wars.

IMHO this is ALL Smoke. He is simply a Asshat who used his " Beliefs" as an excuse to not do his job. This has NOTHING to do with Islam or Muslims or Terrorists. Simply one nut who is too chickenshit to do his job and not just sit around getting fat off Uncle Sams Free education and bennies.

BUT As you all see a certain "news network" is already trying to use this for Political Reasons and as of this morning a certain Party has published at least 3 Fear mongering statements that our Military has been infiltrated by terrorists.

Pitiful

well said.

**Saluki** · Nov-06-2009, 10:41 AM

Again.......... prayers sent to the victim.

To those of you who felt the need to go "Allcoast" on this thread, you can kiss my ass.

**nunyabizness1** · Nov-06-2009, 10:55 AM

In my opinion, it seems he has a history of questionable actions. Whatever drove him to doing what he did should have been addressed prior to this tragic event! It's BS that he was able to continue to treat patients when he was in serious need of treatment himself! To lump him in with race or religious accusations is not right. Just like the example used for Timothy McVeigh... not everyone should be viewed the same for the actions of some. The signs were there and they SHOULD NOT have been ignored! Those that were shot and killed should have been protected by our government by pulling this gunman from practice previously and placing him in intensive treatment. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those involved.