Mainland Mexico Fishing Reports and Discussion Thread, Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL! in Mexico; For some reason tonight , I got thinking about my one and only trip to Acapulco about seven/eight years ago. ...  | |
Apr-07-2007, 07:14 AM
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#1 | | Registered User
Name: Chaz Vessel: Row Location: San Jose, MX Job:Sales
Posts: 4
| Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
For some reason tonight  , I got thinking about my one and only trip to Acapulco about seven/eight years ago. I was in the presidents club for the software company I worked for, and the trip was all expenses paid. I was a well-paid ignorant prick!
I had been offshore billfishing only three/four other times prior and for me it had always been taken for granted that this is the way it was, billfish were caught and released. I reserved this charter boat in Acapulco and was amazed at the price I got. Well, little did I know, I was on a kill-boat. At the time, it was all fun and games, but then as we started catching billfish, and they started killing them, the reality set in and it became pretty disgusting. I was either too naive, a big pussy, and/or felt way too out of my element to object to the fact that I was now on a kill-boat (if I even knew that it was called that at that time). As the years go by and your knowledge grows, and maybe your love of the sport with it, it's hard to shake the guilt and stupidity of allowing the killing of even one of these magnificent billfish from your past. As I recall, we caught and murdered two great sails that day.
To make a long story way too longer- if you're fairly new to offshore fishing MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ON A KILL BOAT, when you reserve online or by phone, and are making plans to go offshore. There's no reason to kill any billfish, EVER!
I'm know I'm preaching to the choir here and the majority of you are very experienced offshore guys, so this is shit that probably doesn't even need to be said, so maybe I'll just copy and paste this over to marlinmag.com now that they have a message board. You never know who might show up and be looking for info to go offshore fishing, so I owe it to my guilt-ridden self to educate at least one other ignoramus! If YOU KILL BILLFISH on PURPOSE, YOU'RE AN IGNORANT PRICK and/or a SELFISH C&NT BAG!
Just this week, I was reading fishing reports for mexico on a well-known online Baja/fishing website, and they show this picture of the seasons first recorded swordfish catch. Guy with his family and this small, if he's lucky 80# swordfish hanging from the rafters. The guy is standing there with his wife and daughter and I swear they looked as ignorant as I was seven years ago. No excuse for it, so it has to be just plain ignorance.
My guess is, the recreational and sport fisherman practicing simple and responsible billfish catch and release don't even have a minor and/or measurable survival impact on the billfish species as a whole, when you compare it to the longliners and their overall contribution to the decimation of all billfish. BUT, without some unanimous individual commitment of personal responsibility, awe, and just plain desire to protect these game fish, there's really no hope for any of us that someone worthwhile and credible will always be there to take up the fight to keep these marine mammals protected and revered against any and all threats they face now and in the future.
Just found this info, after a two-second Google search, about longliners and the Sea of Cortez. Info is a bit old, but the numbers are just plain staggering; For example two longliners fishing for swordfish off Magdalena Bay from September 1997 through May of 1998 deployed 472,000 hooks catching 11,743 Striped Marlin as incidental catch. The incidental billfish caught were 80% of the total catch, while the targeted swordfish were less than 3% of the catch. Sea Watch | Eastern Pacific Ocean Marlin off Mexico....... Doomed?
Billfish Extinction Projections - Blue Marlin, Bluefin Tuna, Swordfish, White Marlin, Bigeye Tuna, Large Sharks and Sailfish - Severity of Atlantic Population Declines, the Causes and What Needs to be Done
Last edited by CaboKilla; Apr-07-2007 at 07:22 AM.
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Apr-07-2007, 08:21 AM
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#2 | | Captain
Name: Paul Romanowski Age: 39 Vessel: 21'seaswirl cc, Kiniption. Location: Huntington Bch. Job:construction
Posts: 1,466
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
Well, I for one am happy for the guy, his wife, and daughter for catching their first swordie!! You are a whiny fuck, and pretty ignorant of the fact that people EAT marlin, sailfish, and swordies. Furthermore, the guys' who own the boat you rode on sell the fish to help pay their bills. Got to remember, they won't get "Well paid" by someone else to fly to Cabo, and spend a day jacking off with you. This is BLOODYDECKS. And usually, the blood if from some fish we just killed. But, sometimes, it is from some douche like you who's friggin' tampon slipped past his BVD's and fell on the deck. I'd rather see a sportfisher sell his customers' catch than see some Taiwanese long liner slinging 100 miles of mono overboard with a million hooks for marlin, so when he picks it up, half of them are wasted by sun& sharks. Go back to eating shrimp and scallops. That way, you only damage the entire seabed to get your snacks, ya whiny bitch.
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Apr-07-2007, 08:24 AM
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#3 | | Legend in my own mind
Name: Buster Brown Age: 54 Vessel: 28' Silverton "ConSeaMate" Location: Escondido Job:Pissing off the World.....one person at a time!
Posts: 11,728
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
Get em Paul!............  ............
Please leave the Swordie fishing for me.............Thanks.....
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Apr-07-2007, 08:46 AM
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#4 | | Skipper
Name: Don Age: 64 Vessel: 2359 Trophy, Irene Sea Location: Mira Mesa Ca Job:fishing Bio: retired with lots of time for fishing
Posts: 3,030
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
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2359 Trophy
"Irene Sea"
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Apr-07-2007, 08:57 AM
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#5 | | Captain
Name: Harry S. Stamper Vessel: Broken Location: Outside the Orange Curtain... Job:Asteroid Killer
Posts: 9,129
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
Well, if I get another chance at a swordie, actually hook it, AND then actually land the thing.... It's gonna die. I hear that's some good grub right there.
I hear they taste like GW, Bald Eagle and BSB from cold California waters.
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I test gear in my living room. It's safer that way. Also, my boat's broke. The next one is going to have a sail....
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Apr-07-2007, 09:15 AM
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#6 | | Master of Nothing
Name: That Guy Age: 36 Vessel: World Cat 270EC Location: San Diego Job:Internet Dork
Posts: 11,304
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
Don't take the bait. This guy is a jackass.
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Apr-07-2007, 09:40 AM
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#7 | | Captain
Name: Clarke Vessel: Cabo 35' Flybridge Location: Newport Job:Puerto Vallarta
Posts: 1,030
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL! Quote:
Originally Posted by Gato Gordo Don't take the bait. This guy is a jackass. | 100%
He is probably the lucky SOB in the photo with the once in a lifetime daytime surface catch of a broadbill in MX
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Apr-07-2007, 09:50 AM
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#8 | | Registered User
Name: Parley Age: 38 Vessel: too small for ocean.... Location: Glendale Job:Fishin & Huntin
Posts: 539
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
80# is about the typical size of broadbill caught commercially in some areas. :104167739 So, that means half or so are smaller than that caught by the guys targeting swordfish.
Its good advice to know EXACTLY what type of boat your booking, and when going out even in pangas to tell them before hitting the water that NO billfish are kept, or NO roosters, ect.
But a bit harsh.
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Apr-07-2007, 10:03 AM
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#9 | | Banned
Name: Jason Age: 34 Vessel: Worldcat 270EC Location: Encinitas, CA USA Job:Bloodydecks / Fishdope.com Bio: 2"
Posts: 12,834
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
The next billfish I catch is going to die just for you. Send me shipping address.
You must be related to JD.
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Apr-07-2007, 10:06 AM
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#10 | | In memory of Cole Sleeter
Name: Asshole Age: 37 Vessel: 22 TWIN VEE Location: ESCONDIDO Job:Minuteman
Posts: 1,405
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
Stoked for the family and their first broad, fond memories for all of them.
__________________  Uneducated ditch digger!
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Apr-07-2007, 10:12 AM
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#11 | | Capitan
Name: Manny Ocaranza Vessel: 35 Cabo " Aleta " 35 Cabo " El matador " , 33Blackfin " Pacifico " Location: Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico Job:Charter Captain
Posts: 824
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL!
I want to kill one too,If ever hook one,Its coming to the boat..
IM happy for the family
pendulossssssss
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Apr-07-2007, 10:31 AM
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#12 | | Captain
Name: Dave Age: 65 Vessel: BERTRAM 35 Location: Winnetka ca Job:Engineer
Posts: 1,181
| Re: Kill Boats Story - NEVER EVER KILL THE BILL! Quote:
Originally Posted by CaboKilla For some reason tonight  , I got thinking about my one and only trip to Acapulco about seven/eight years ago. I was in the presidents club for the software company I worked for, and the trip was all expenses paid. I was a well-paid ignorant prick!
I had been offshore billfishing only three/four other times prior and for me it had always been taken for granted that this is the way it was, billfish were caught and released. I reserved this charter boat in Acapulco and was amazed at the price I got. Well, little did I know, I was on a kill-boat. At the time, it was all fun and games, but then as we started catching billfish, and they started killing them, the reality set in and it became pretty disgusting. I was either too naive, a big pussy, and/or felt way too out of my element to object to the fact that I was now on a kill-boat (if I even knew that it was called that at that time). As the years go by and your knowledge grows, and maybe your love of the sport with it, it's hard to shake the guilt and stupidity of allowing the killing of even one of these magnificent billfish from your past. As I recall, we caught and murdered two great sails that day.
To make a long story way too longer- if you're fairly new to offshore fishing MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ON A KILL BOAT, when you reserve online or by phone, and are making plans to go offshore. There's no reason to kill any billfish, EVER!
I'm know I'm preaching to the choir here and the majority of you are very experienced offshore guys, so this is shit that probably doesn't even need to be said, so maybe I'll just copy and paste this over to marlinmag.com now that they have a message board. You never know who might show up and be looking for info to go offshore fishing, so I owe it to my guilt-ridden self to educate at least one other ignoramus! If YOU KILL BILLFISH on PURPOSE, YOU'RE AN IGNORANT PRICK and/or a SELFISH C&NT BAG!
Just this week, I was reading fishing reports for mexico on a well-known online Baja/fishing website, and they show this picture of the seasons first recorded swordfish catch. Guy with his family and this small, if he's lucky 80# swordfish hanging from the rafters. The guy is standing there with his wife and daughter and I swear they looked as ignorant as I was seven years ago. No excuse for it, so it has to be just plain ignorance.
My guess is, the recreational and sport fisherman practicing simple and responsible billfish catch and release don't even have a minor and/or measurable survival impact on the billfish species as a whole, when you compare it to the longliners and their overall contribution to the decimation of all billfish. BUT, without some unanimous individual commitment of personal responsibility, awe, and just plain desire to protect these game fish, there's really no hope for any of us that someone worthwhile and credible will always be there to take up the fight to keep these marine mammals protected and revered against any and all threats they face now and in the future.
Just found this info, after a two-second Google search, about longliners and the Sea of Cortez. Info is a bit old, but the numbers are just plain staggering; For example two longliners fishing for swordfish off Magdalena Bay from September 1997 through May of 1998 deployed 472,000 hooks catching 11,743 Striped Marlin as incidental catch. The incidental billfish caught were 80% of the total catch, while the targeted swordfish were less than 3% of the catch. Sea Watch | Eastern Pacific Ocean Marlin off Mexico....... Doomed?
Billfish Extinction Projections - Blue Marlin, Bluefin Tuna, Swordfish, White Marlin, Bigeye Tuna, Large Sharks and Sailfish - Severity of Atlantic Population Declines, the Causes and What Needs to be Done | SHAZAMMMMM ROBIN IS THIS PETA I SMELL.He does have a valid point never fish with more than 1000 hooks.OK I Promise only 900 DIMWIT
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