Death by internet, make it a double.

johnnylite · Dec-17-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SNEEKEE

Oh ya every thing I kill Im going eat or I have a reason

Why do I keep thinking we're going to see this guy on the six oclock news? That is if he is real of course.

KID CREOLE · Dec-17-2007, 11:22 AM

I really don't know what to say about this thread ecept there are some folks here who are making uneducated statements and live in a box!

I'm a bird hunter, but hunting is hunting! I read as much as possible and talk to as many bilogist and game wardens as possible about wildlife management.

Coyotes, Badgers, Racoons and ground squirrles(SP) play hell on birds, epsecially upland and waterfowl, ground squirrles are the worst.

When hunting mountain lions was legal here in California, we had a growing big horn sheep population, since the ban, the sheep populations has been devastated.

In South Dakota, their DFG has hired guns who shoot coyotes and any other varmint from a slow flying Cessna, South Dakota has some of the best hunting in the country. If predators and varmints are kept in check certain bird or animals population can be devastated.

So those of you who think I'm wrong, hop in the water and give that seal a loving hug while he's gulping down your jack pot cbass.

johnnylite · Dec-17-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KID CREOLE

I really don't know what to say about this thread ecept there are some folks here who are making uneducated statements and live in a box!

I'm a bird hunter, but hunting is hunting! I read as much as possible and talk to as many bilogist and game wardens as possible about wildlife management.

Coyotes, Badgers, Racoons and ground squirrles(SP) play hell on birds, epsecially upland and waterfowl, ground squirrles are the worst.

When hunting mountain lions was legal here in California, we had a growing big horn sheep population, since the ban, the sheep populations has been devastated.

In South Dakota, their DFG has hired guns who shoot coyotes and any other varmint from a slow flying Cessna, South Dakota has some of the best hunting in the country. If predators and varmints are kept in check certain bird or animals population can be devastated.

So those of you who think I'm wrong, hop in the water and give that seal a loving hug while he's gulping down your jack pot cbass.

KID CREOLE · Dec-17-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnylite69

Like I said uneducated!

ReconDoc242 · Dec-17-2007, 12:24 PM

Well said Jeph

Kurt · Dec-17-2007, 12:31 PM

TOUCHE

**Saluki** · Dec-17-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FishStalker

I hate to weigh in on this but....

When I was a kid, me and my pellet gun killed an awful lot of birds. I equate this to the varmint hunters--killing for killing's sake.

Fast forward 20+ years and I now have 2 parrots as pets. I couldn't imagine going out and shooting birds for fun just to 'kill sumthin'. Killing to eat? That's different. It's about survival, to some degree. I may not kill the chickens I eat but I would if I had to. I think that some of the people that go out and kill shit just to watch it die are either mentally disturbed or never 'growed up'. I know that I've long since moved past that.

Seeing people go out in the hills and kill hundreds or thousands of squirrels, birds or other critters just to watch their bodies explode is no different than the boats that go out and plug the trashcans with barracuda. You and I know that most of those fish are gonna end up in a trashcan--it's just a waste. And there's plenty of fisherman on this site who've decried THAT practice.

I think Charles and I are twins.
Ditto on everything you just said!

FishStalker · Dec-17-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KID CREOLE

I really don't know what to say about this thread ecept there are some folks here who are making uneducated statements and live in a box!

I'm a bird hunter, but hunting is hunting! I read as much as possible and talk to as many bilogist and game wardens as possible about wildlife management.

Coyotes, Badgers, Racoons and ground squirrles(SP) play hell on birds, epsecially upland and waterfowl, ground squirrles are the worst.

When hunting mountain lions was legal here in California, we had a growing big horn sheep population, since the ban, the sheep populations has been devastated.

In South Dakota, their DFG has hired guns who shoot coyotes and any other varmint from a slow flying Cessna, South Dakota has some of the best hunting in the country. If predators and varmints are kept in check certain bird or animals population can be devastated.

So those of you who think I'm wrong, hop in the water and give that seal a loving hug while he's gulping down your jack pot cbass.

The whole "we need to kill the predators to protect the other wildlife" argument is bullshit and you know it.

These simplistic views about ecosystem management are as silly as the ones the tree huggers espouse.

Perhaps you ought to do some reading about what happened to the ecosystem in Yellowstone when we removed all the predators (wolves). Now that the wolves have been reintroduced, not only are the Elk herds healthier but so are the aspen trees that the unchecked Elk populations were destroying.

Wolves Are Rebalancing Yellowstone Ecosystem

johnnylite · Dec-17-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saluki

I think Charles and I are twins.
Ditto on everything you just said!

Make that triplets. The oly guy on here who makes sense is Jeph.

johnnylite · Dec-17-2007, 12:50 PM

Oh shit mispelled need to get educated.

**Smudge** · Dec-17-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FishStalker

The whole "we need to kill the predators to protect the other wildlife" argument is bullshit and you know it.

These simplistic views about ecosystem management are as silly as the ones the tree huggers espouse.

Perhaps you ought to do some reading about what happened to the ecosystem in Yellowstone when we removed all the predators (wolves). Now that the wolves have been reintroduced, not only are the Elk herds healthier but so are the aspen trees that the unchecked Elk populations were destroying.

Wolves Are Rebalancing Yellowstone Ecosystem

There's no hunting in Yellowstone Chuck. Without the wolves there was no predator balance. You have to look at the situation from a broader perspective. Yellowstone is not an analogue of the ballance of the United States by any stretch.

Hunters as a whole are the best stewards for this resource in the same way that fishermen are the best stewards for the fishing resource.

There are bad, immoral, wateful hunters. There are bad, immoral, wasteful fishermen too. But as a community we are each better in tune with our respective environments than any under paid, under staffed, under resourced government entity.

Look at MLPA's...

KID CREOLE · Dec-17-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FishStalker

The whole "we need to kill the predators to protect the other wildlife" argument is bullshit and you know it.

These simplistic views about ecosystem management are as silly as the ones the tree huggers espouse.

Perhaps you ought to do some reading about what happened to the ecosystem in Yellowstone when we removed all the predators (wolves). Now that the wolves have been reintroduced, not only are the Elk herds healthier but so are the aspen trees that the unchecked Elk populations were destroying.

Wolves Are Rebalancing Yellowstone Ecosystem

You are 100% right about the Elk in Yellowstone, they had become OVERPOPULATED because the wolves were wiped out by people who had intrest in cattle sales.

The same can't be said about the mountain lions here in California can it?