Need Help Please shoot through mesh

IMAKECARSFAST · Oct-22-2009, 10:56 AM

i just picked up a primos ground max escape deluxe blind... on sale at cabela's... i love cabelas!!!!

what is your opinion of the "shoot through mesh"?

i will be using the rage 3 blade

will it make the blades deploy premature???

does it deflect the arrow at all???

if the rages's wont work... what is your recomendation for the best broadhead thats compatible with shoot through mesh

or should i just take the mesh out?

i dont wanna miss or get a bad hit!!!

thanks for your help in advance

**el Toro** · Oct-22-2009, 12:00 PM

The mesh is awesome on a ground blind. It really helps IMO. You can get a way with a lot more movement. That said, you will not be able to shoot a Rage (or most any other mechanical) through it with much accuracy. Especially if you have to shoot past 20 yards. There is a very good chance it will open prematurely. Stick with a razor sharp fixed blade head and it will have very little to no impact on your shots as long as your bow is tuned.

Make sure you practice with any head you plan on hunting with, especially a fixed head when you are used to mechanicals. A mechanical can hide tuning issues or form flaws that wont become evident until you shoot a fixed blade head. Address any of these issues first. A poorly tuned bow that is not shooting a perfectly straight arrow will give you lousy results that are only magnified through mesh.

lowyder993s · Oct-22-2009, 03:20 PM

Nate...do you have to shoot perpendicular to the mesh? My thought is ANYTHING touching the arrow can't be as good as nothing.

**el Toro** · Oct-22-2009, 03:59 PM

No, not necessarily. You can shoot through at an angle. The broadhead cuts the mesh and paves the way for the fletching to clear. What would cause problems would be a fishtailing arrow from an untuned bow. You are right that no obstruction is probably best, but IMO, the PRO's of having it up far exceed the cons of taking it down. Within reason, of course. I'm sure that at longer range it would have a greater impact on accuracy, but inside of 30 yards, you shouldn't notice much, if any, difference.

IMAKECARSFAST · Oct-22-2009, 09:20 PM

thanks for the info...

my bow was tuned by bruce at the bow and arrow shop and shoots better than i do...

what is a good fixed blade??... everyone has a gimmick and everyone has an opinion

just seems wierd to shoot throught something... the mesh is really cool... if your wearing all black you could be having a dance party in the blind and cant see any movement!!!

**el Toro** · Oct-22-2009, 09:40 PM

Double check it still. Strings stretch, rests move, etc. Tune can change. I also don't take "someone else tuned my bow" as being the be all and end all. Bruce is very good and I'm sure he had it dialed in, but due to the individual differences in each person's grip, release, anchor, shooting style, etc. the tune needs to be verified by the actual shooter. Even though it seems to shoot great, you could have a minor issue and a Rage or a field point won't show it, but it might cause accuracy differences with a fixed head. I could go into why that happens and the solutions but that is a really lengthy topic. Just realize that a good tune is really important when shooting thru mesh. Don't take that for granted. You need to verify before shooting at a live animal. I personally like to paper tune at a close distance. That will tell you if you are getting clean flight right out of the bow.

As for good broadheads, you can pretty much take your pick. They are all pretty good these days. I've had my best success with Slick tricks, Montecs (sharpened), and Strikers, among others. If I had to pick just one it would be the Slick Tricks.

IMAKECARSFAST · Oct-23-2009, 08:52 AM

ill check my bow out today... do some paper tuning
i understand what your saying about the tuning stuff...
maybe ill just sacrafice one of the windows and do some practice through it ad see how it works out

ReconDoc242 · Oct-23-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by IMAKECARSFAST

what is a good fixed blade??... everyone has a gimmick and everyone has an opinion

Brian,
In my opinion Montect G5s have been the most accurate fixed blade...but you do need to make sure the are really sharp. The best penetration and accuracy combo for me are the Shuttle T-Locks. They are slightly less accurate the G5s but they penetrate deeper then any other fixed blade or expandable(I got bored last year when my daughter started hunting, so I tried them out on ballistic gel during a slow day at work. Penetration was important to me since she is only shooting a 42# bow).
Personally, I do not trust expandables...I have had bad experiences with them.

socalcowboy · Oct-27-2009, 08:20 AM

FYI - Heres an article from NRA - American Hunter

Bullshooters: Shooting Holes in Hunting Lore

fish_whisper · Oct-27-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMAKECARSFAST

thanks for the info...

my bow was tuned by bruce at the bow and arrow shop and shoots better than i do...

what is a good fixed blade??... everyone has a gimmick and everyone has an opinion

just seems wierd to shoot throught something... the mesh is really cool... if your wearing all black you could be having a dance party in the blind and cant see any movement!!!

I have been shooting muzzy 100gr 3 blades for 8 years now and never have had a problem with them.

IMAKECARSFAST · Oct-27-2009, 09:04 AM

larry,
thanks for the link to that article.... just what i like reading... simple... to the point and not too long

might have to make a trip to the bow shop today

**el Toro** · Oct-27-2009, 09:13 AM

I disagree with this statement...

"It is advisable, however, to avoid shooting through the mesh with fixed blades whenever possible,"

It must be a typo as he then goes on to say that there was minimal effect with a Thunderhead (a fixed blade). I think he meant to say expandable, which I would definitely agree with.