jmo on baiting

gpomplin · Sep-16-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Clean up on isle 3!

is that dairy or produce

Mergrath · Sep-16-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gpomplin

is that dairy or produce

Someone stepped on a value size tube of KY...

Mergrath · Sep-16-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by P&YSlayer

I have hunted private property in palomar, ramona outskirts, etc. I have personally seen other landowners put out cob for deer and turkeys. These are landowners with no livestock, cows,goats,etc. When I notified dfg there response was "well just get as close as you can to their property and maybe you will get one."

I personally do not bait. Between dog food, goat food I wouldnt be able to afford the money to try and keep deer in my area. We basicly have our goats for fire protection. They roam our property and our neighbors to keep the vegetation down. We do give therm cob and only portions at a time. I'm not a biologist and I do not know the impact it has on them but they have been fine for years.

I also have seen corn, salt licks and other baiting techniques all over the mountains. These guys that bait usually dont get deer. That is the reason they feel the need to bait anyways. I would never call dfg on them because between the mountain bikers, hikers, bunny huggers we have enough people roaming our woods as it is.

If dfg wont do anything about the landowners baiting why should we start ratting each other out. Dfg is notorious for writing suspect tickets in our woods, seen people get a ticket for notching the wrong day on their tag. I witnessed an older gentlemen wave down dfg to validate his kill, and they wrote him up for notching the wrong date. Sure a bonehead move on his part but an honest mistake.

I agree with mergrath I wouldnt call on anybody, not saying that anyone else should or shouldnt so dont get butt hurt. I would be afraid of retaliation.

good luck guys

I never thought of that but it sounds very probable to me. I've been blessed with early success in hunting therefore why would I change what has already worked for me legally. Although freakin srfnkill had gone 13 years and never baited...master baited, yes...but baiting for deer, no.

P&YSlayer · Sep-16-2009, 12:08 PM

I never thought of that but it sounds very probable to me. I've been blessed with early success in hunting therefore why would I change what has already worked for me legally. Although freakin srfnkill had gone 13 years and never baited...master baited, yes...but baiting for deer, no.
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LMAO. TMI, have you personally seen this?, JK.

I guess this baiting issue is about big game animals, deer in particulair. I hunt birds in the valley and if you do you are hunting over bait. Wheat,asparagus,grapefruit, is this a form of bait hunting? Prolly not I believe the law is just for big game.

IMO, anyone who baits will get caught eventually. With hunters following your tracks or following your drag, everone knows where your stand is. You would have to be pretty stupid to put out a 50lb bag of cob anyways. If you bait other hunters will turn you in, move in around your area or hunt your stand. Not worth it to me. I would suspect the dfg laws are pretty stiff for this anyways, maybe a loss of your license. Is it really worth it?

What if you use 4x4 mule deer piss in the rut, is that baiting? You are trying to lure the deer to your spot. Maybe i'm off topic, but just food for thought.

Mergrath · Sep-16-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by P&YSlayer

I never thought of that but it sounds very probable to me. I've been blessed with early success in hunting therefore why would I change what has already worked for me legally. Although freakin srfnkill had gone 13 years and never baited...master baited, yes...but baiting for deer, no.
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LMAO. TMI, have you personally seen this?, JK.

I guess this baiting issue is about big game animals, deer in particulair. I hunt birds in the valley and if you do you are hunting over bait. Wheat,asparagus,grapefruit, is this a form of bait hunting? Prolly not I believe the law is just for big game.

IMO, anyone who baits will get caught eventually. With hunters following your tracks or following your drag, everone knows where your stand is. You would have to be pretty stupid to put out a 50lb bag of cob anyways. If you bait other hunters will turn you in, move in around your area or hunt your stand. Not worth it to me. I would suspect the dfg laws are pretty stiff for this anyways, maybe a loss of your license. Is it really worth it?

What if you use 4x4 mule deer piss in the rut, is that baiting? You are trying to lure the deer to your spot. Maybe i'm off topic, but just food for thought.

Shit...I taught the young buck everything he knows!

Game calls and scents are legal...any type of food source is not. But, what if I get some horny ass buck and he eats my scent wick covered in blood stained doe piss...would I get cited for baiting? I know there are some of you sick fuckers that still eat that shit...regardless!

gpomplin · Sep-16-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergrath

Shit...I taught the young buck everything he knows!

Game calls and scents are legal...any type of food source is not. But, what if I get some horny ass buck and he eats my scent wick covered in blood stained doe piss...would I get cited for baiting? I know there are some of you sick fuckers that still eat that shit...regardless!

Tim what the fuck we going to do with you,,,

lmao

Mergrath · Sep-16-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gpomplin

Tim what the fuck we going to do with you,,,

lmao

Well...you're all gonna love me of course...cuz I'm special!

gpomplin · Sep-16-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergrath

Well...you're all gonna love me of course...cuz I'm special!

thank god I'm sitting here with my boots on

**el Toro** · Sep-16-2009, 04:21 PM

The way I've heard it explained is that if it can be ingested and it's foreign matter artificially put there by you, it's baiting and illegal.

This goes for both big game and birds. You can't put grain or corn out for them either. The law reads that if the food source is there due to bonafide agricultural operations, that is OK. You just can't artificially put any food out specifically for the purpose of attracting and hunting game of any sort.

Sluester · Sep-16-2009, 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=Mergrath;1484834]Shit...I taught the young buck everything he knows!

Took all of 5 minutes.

Is it fair chase if you EVER hunt over bait or water legal or not.?

strapp · Sep-16-2009, 09:37 PM

So I hope you guys that leave your salt licks laying around take them with you this year when you go home cause I can,t afford the 250.00 fine. and when you leave the lick behind and someone calls and tells the warden where its at, and some poor bastard goes hunting there and the warden is waiting for you and says you planted it,and you didn't then he cites you for hunting over bait. the part that sucks is when the warden leaves the lick there and try's to see how many people he can catch, then thats down right shitty. The warden is supost to remove it right away and he did not, for two weeks he left it there, now thats some SHITTY warden so like I said please take your licks with you
thanks

IMAKECARSFAST · Sep-20-2009, 06:05 PM

baiting...hummmmm...

leaving piles of food and feeders out to attract game.... why not just save alot of money and time and go hunt cows.. much more meat... probably the same risk factor in this area of the country

leaving a mineral block out......
i think a mineral block is acceptable given the right situation...

i think the right situation is post season during the winter to aid in deer health sorta like a centrum multi vitamin... always good to have have healthy does to have healthy fawns... i think that is acceptable and good for the heard

wrong situation would be stockpiling them right under your stand for the previous 3 months prior to and during the season... thats just entrapment!!!

thats just me and im not a biologist