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Old Sep-28-2009, 10:58 PM   #1
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Float tube or Pontoon?

I am gettin into fly fishing.

I will mainly fish the sierras...crowley.

Should I buy a Float tube or a Pontoon. I am a big guy...code for overweight. what would be the best option for me?

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Old Sep-29-2009, 03:10 AM   #2
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I would go with a FishCat or FatCat float tube. It just all depends on what you wanna do and where you wanna fish. Pontoons are nice but they are really big and on the heavy side so you only want to fish them on lakes that there is no walk at all. Me and my dad have both had pontoons and we both sold ours pretty fast. Just to big and bulky.
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Thanks Josh,

Just checked them out.... very cool v shape. shure thats much better than the old donut!

One more thing Josh. I need a starter rod and reel. I dont want to get something that I will regret having later on. Something that will cast well. I dont want to just save money and have a crap outfit. Any suggestions. I would like to spend about 300

Great pic of your 1802. Thats a great little boat. I used to manage the Trophy dealer untill they went bankrupt. I have sold a ton of 1802's and spent many hours on the water on them.

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i have a bucks bullet and an outcast super fat cat. i prefer my old bucks bullet over the fat cat. but then again i have fished in a bullet for 16 or 17 years. go to bob marriotts and check out all the different tubes.
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Thanks Josh,

Just checked them out.... very cool v shape. shure thats much better than the old donut!

One more thing Josh. I need a starter rod and reel. I dont want to get something that I will regret having later on. Something that will cast well. I dont want to just save money and have a crap outfit. Any suggestions. I would like to spend about 300

Great pic of your 1802. Thats a great little boat. I used to manage the Trophy dealer untill they went bankrupt. I have sold a ton of 1802's and spent many hours on the water on them.

Thanks agian,

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As far as rod and reel are concerned, I suggest to my clients that they look at TFO rods and Ross reels for starter gear. We looked at them last week at the local fly shop. You can get a TFO Professional series rod for $150 and a Ross CLA 2 for $150. That would meet your budget and you would get good quality stuff that will still fish long after you gain experience. Check them out.
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As far as rod and reel are concerned, I suggest to my clients that they look at TFO rods and Ross reels for starter gear. We looked at them last week at the local fly shop. You can get a TFO Professional series rod for $150 and a Ross CLA 2 for $150. That would meet your budget and you would get good quality stuff that will still fish long after you gain experience. Check them out.
Just as he said the TFO and Ross are nice. Also you might want to check out Redington I have seen a few of those setups for really good prices.
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i have 1 problem with float tubes, you cant drink beer n them unless you install a catheter....its just too far to get back to shore roll down the waders etc. for this reason alone i only wet wade and hike rivers because pontoons are too heavy.
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I,m using the Trout Unlimited "Adirondak" tube and it floats my fat ass (I'm about 260) it has a weight capacity of 350. I fished the Super Fat Cat before and your too far out of the water, and you act as a sail when it's windy.
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I have been tubing for a very long time.
Pontoons NEED NOT be big, bulky and heavy. Look at the Outlaw.

I guide on rivers but I fish stillwater. Love it!
I have seen the weather change in a heart beat, and I have noticed little difference in what I have been in or on, you adapt.

I prefer a Pontoon, More surface, more storage, rides waves better without getting beat up, can row, can motor easier.

Weight depends on the Pontoon. Urethane bladders and aluminum frame are pretty darn light. We are out there for the excersize ...right?

I have an H3 and I still use it ....a little, but anywhere it can go, the Outlaw can go with more comfort and option.

You sit higher on a pontoon and it is easier to cast from a chair then sitting flat on the ground which is the difference in a pontoon and a tube.
This crap about wind is just that. No matter what you are in or on in the wind you get blown around, no two ways about it, wind sucks. But, at least with a pontoon you can row if your legs get tired.


As far as rod TFO is a great bang for the buck. Reel, check into Marlins...or Ross. Line is where you really don't want to skimp. Crappy line can make even the top of the line rods hard to cast. For Trout, Rio Selective Trout, Windcutter II, or SHARKSKIN.
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I agree with Lance on the fact that pontoons DO get you blown on the water like a sailboat. Maybe the sailboat reference is a far cry from what it is, but it definitely decreases when in a float tube/pontoon float tube such as the navigators from caddis or the TU stuff. Delta tubes/ponttons are real nice also. There are a myriad of models/brands. In the end, it's your money. Sierras are small lakes anyways unless you fish Crowley or similar. If you're really out of shape...you can always add a trolling motor to a pontoon boat

THE reason why you don't get blown to the other side of the lake in a float tube is that a very good portion of your body/torso is in the water acting like a drift sock or sea anchor and you can point your fins down or in a direction that slows you down. I've fished on a lot of the Sierra lakes, as well and I can tell you that trying to hump a full pontton is hell unless you have a 4x4 and can carry that damn thing over 5miles roundtrip esp. if you go to the real good lakes.

A float tube sucks bcz you can't drink beer since it's hard to break the seal and keep breaking it. So, stick with a flask of your preferred poison. If you have the money, buy the Force fins. Yeah, they're 100.00 but you'll be glad you did when you try out a cheaper brand first and then buy the set (budget willing). At the very least, don't buy the 20.00 fins. The Float cat and supercats are nice also. If you're gonna but a pontoon boat, buy a canoe.

As for a rod, buy a St. Croix, TFOs are ok, but buy something that has mod to mod-fast action for starters. Spend the money on a good, solid rod. 150-200.00. The reel is secondary and you don't need a reel with conical drags yet. You gotta learn to cast, hook them, and fight them. A 150.00 reel is just going to set you back in learning to cast properly if your budget is 300.00. Spend no more than 100.00 on the reel.

If fishing the Sierras, I highly recommend floating line (of course), but MAKE sure you buy some intermediate line (stillwater 1-2in sink rate clear). It gets a little stiff in cold water, but you NEED to stretch out your line everytime you fish anyways. Very important that you do this!!! After that, don't don't don't go casting for the other bank. Learn to place accurate casts you can manage and control the line at your feet or on your lap if in a float tube. The whole reason why you're in a float tube/pontoon is to get closer...remember? THE double-haul comes abit more naturally after you get the mechanics of casting down enough to time the haul. Learn as many different cast types you can and then you'll find you need to make some up as you go. youtube is a great reference on casting technique.

As far as people to read on for casting technique-nobody IMO does a better job than Gary Borger. His method is the easiest of them out there. Doug Swisher is good for advanced stuff, but so is Lefty Kreh.

Send me a PM if you want some more info. Bob Marriot's would be a good place to start. If any guy at any fly shop says you need to spend money on a good reel, they're not getting down to fundamentals. Spend the 200.00 on the rod and get a reel (does NOT need to be disc) and don't chince on the line. Scientific Anglers Ultra 3 AST or Mastery/Sharkskin, RIO Windcutter is GREAT line (what I use), etc.., Cortland 444 SL and up. DO NOT GET A DOUBLE TAPER LINE-you should get a weight forward (WF). Your priority is rod, line, then reel. Do some more research before walking into a store. And for the sierras, don't exceed a 5weight.
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[QUOTE=Raw_Instinct;1515629]I agree with Lance on the fact that pontoons DO get you blown on the water like a sailboat. Maybe the sailboat reference is a far cry from what it is, but it definitely decreases when in a float tube/pontoon float tube such as the navigators from caddis or the TU stuff. Delta tubes/ponttons are real nice also. There are a myriad of models/brands. In the end, it's your money. Sierras are small lakes anyways unless you fish Crowley or similar. If you're really out of shape...you can always add a trolling motor to a pontoon boat



A DONUT this is true that you don't get blown as much because you are HALF on the water, but I have owned a SFC and I do own an H3 (V shape and the shape in questioned I am sure as also the ODC) in which I am in the water from the knee down with my rear getting slightly wet. YUP! get blown bad. More flipper in the water maybe, but still hard to kick. One reason I went with $150. Force Fins. And then I was at the price of a good Pontoon.



THE reason why you don't get blown to the other side of the lake in a float tube is that a very good portion of your body/torso is in the water acting like a drift sock or sea anchor and you can point your fins down or in a direction that slows you down. I've fished on a lot of the Sierra lakes, as well and I can tell you that trying to hump a full pontton is hell unless you have a 4x4 and can carry that damn thing over 5miles roundtrip esp. if you go to the real good lake.



You do the same thing with a pontoon. There are different sizes. Check out the Bucks Bag Alpine. I had the older one with Urethane bladders and mine was 6' where the new ones are 7'. The new ones are also low profile.

If you plan on fishing for several hours....NOTHING, and I stress this, is more comfortable then the molded plastic (padded) seat on a pontoon.
I read more people try to modify float tube seats.

You can get to the other side of the road on a Moped or a Harley.....which is more comfortable and which will last longer.
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