thanks to kris i'll probably have better luck on the right forum with my question. although, i do appreciate the responce i did get on the rod building forum. what i consider the best rig this poor boy has is a penn 4/0 with a tiburon frame. magnesium spool. it sits in a black steel graphite seeker with 30# p-line. sweetness. its landed me my first and only white seabass. i also have a penn 6/0 sitting on a penn sabre stoker. if i could find a 6/0 tiburon for the 114h it would be nice having the set. i was told that they're not making them anymore and are probably hard to find. is it impossible?....bill
sorry i took so long to reply scott, it's a standard size(wide)2 3/4. somebody must have grabbed from you by now. i'm still learning about this stuff, but it's fun finding out. thnks for the info. bill