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Old Oct-31-2009, 08:24 PM   #1
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Why is it that all new reels these days are hi speed. Im an avid fisherman here in the NE and must say there arent many chioces for a hi-end inshore reel. Im not a big fan of leverdrags for inshore so there goes Avet and Accurate. The Trinidad gear's are way too high for me and the only left is the Saltiga. I really like them but how many can one person own? I have a few Ocea Jiggers (JDM Trinidads) but trying to get parts when something goes wrong takes 6 months.

Am I missing something? Why dont manufacturers make 5/1 or 5.2/1 reels anymore??
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Are you throwing lures or bait? Do you want a level wind or conventional? Aside from these questions, I fully agree with you that high speed reels are really only good for three things:

First and most important, they rip a lure or jig through the water so it gets bit.
Secondly and far less important, they return your tired or dead bait to you quickly as well.
Thirdly and only of importance to a reel manufacturer is the pervasive and completely erroneous thought that high speed reels must be better for you because they're "fast" and/or they help you reel fish in "faster" both of which are bogus and/or defy the laws of physics. I immediately quit listening to anyone who makes this claim.

Let me know what you plan on doing with the reel and maybe I can help.
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Why is it that all new reels these days are hi speed. Im an avid fisherman here in the NE and must say there arent many chioces for a hi-end inshore reel. Im not a big fan of leverdrags for inshore so there goes Avet and Accurate. The Trinidad gear's are way too high for me and the only left is the Saltiga. I really like them but how many can one person own? I have a few Ocea Jiggers (JDM Trinidads) but trying to get parts when something goes wrong takes 6 months.

Am I missing something? Why dont manufacturers make 5/1 or 5.2/1 reels anymore??


Also include the Penn Torque in the equation, the little TRQ100 may be in the size range you like for inshore.
True, the gear ratio is up there at 6.2 to 1, but it has the "double-wide" gears along with the ISP, which give much more cranking power than other reels of similar high gear ratio [hence the name].
Of course the power is nothing like a true low-gear 2-speed reel that goes down to 2 to 1, 1.7 to 1, or even lower, but it does give about the same power as a 4-1 reel, with the jig-fishing and convenience advantages of the higher speed.
Also casts very nice due to the "disengaging pinion gear", and has the magnetic cast control [same as Penn 525MAG] for those who like that feature.
when using normal inshore lines like 15 or 20 pound mono, the drag power/cranking power far exceeds what you can use, but I sometimes fish this reel with 50-pound braid and just a short 40 pound leader with small jigs, and it can literally "straight grind" school-size albacore and yellowfin tuna in the 20-25 pound class right in.
Made in USA, parts readily available, same general price range as the reels you mentioned.




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I really like them but how many can one person own?
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Also include the Penn Torque in the equation, the little TRQ100 may be in the size range you like for inshore.
True, the gear ratio is up there at 6.2 to 1, but it has the "double-wide" gears along with the ISP, which give much more cranking power than other reels of similar high gear ratio [hence the name].
Of course the power is nothing like a true low-gear 2-speed reel that goes down to 2 to 1, 1.7 to 1, or even lower, but it does give about the same power as a 4-1 reel, with the jig-fishing and convenience advantages of the higher speed.
Also casts very nice due to the "disengaging pinion gear", and has the magnetic cast control [same as Penn 525MAG] for those who like that feature.
when using normal inshore lines like 15 or 20 pound mono, the drag power/cranking power far exceeds what you can use, but I sometimes fish this reel with 50-pound braid and just a short 40 pound leader with small jigs, and it can literally "straight grind" school-size albacore and yellowfin tuna in the 20-25 pound class right in.
Made in USA, parts readily available, same general price range as the reels you mentioned.




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How does having "double-wide gears give you more torque?
And what's ISP? is that like HEG? a big gear on your handle and a little one on the spool?

Calcutta TE's are a very nice reel for inshore fishing, maybe not great for monsters but inshore up to Seabass I think they're great. the two largest sizes are availble without levelwinds. The Saltigas are probably the best suited reels for an all aluminum low speed star drag reel with lots of drag but it sounds like you already know that. In the lighter line, <25lb, torque doesn't seem to normally be an issue so why avoid the 6-1 ratio's? Just turn the handle slower.
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[QUOTE=BrokenBackRebel;1533038]How does having "double-wide gears give you more torque?
And what's ISP? is that like HEG? a big gear on your handle and a little one on the spool?


The "double-wide" gears operate on much the same principle as wide tires giving more traction, with a much larger engagement of the main and pinion gears.
A side benefit is the extra gear depth also allows room for several extra drag washers.
ISP stands for "Integrated Side Plate"; there is no gear bridge assembly so there is no flex in the system which causes loss of efficiency.



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TLD Star, SS gears. this one has a carbontex drag and a Torium handle
I use 50 pound braid on it and it is a very tough reel with a strong anti reverse,
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