Reel for large surface irons

[F15hK1ll3r]

Originally Posted by SaltySerg

Actually, they're a good size on her. They look pretty good behind her green top!

agreed.

[coryellk]

Originally Posted by hucklongfin

A ProGear 540 on an Ulua93h works for me with the big iron. Of your two choices I'll take the 40N.

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[babachu]

Put an Avet JX 6/3 on my 100J - works great

[invictus]

Newell 533 as well. zero to little maintenance, parts available anwhere in the world, and you can fix it yourself, oh, it casts as well or better and you can use the money you save to stock up on iron.

[johndtuttle]

Originally Posted by tunanorth

Interesting that nobody has mentioned the Penn Torque TRQ200, which I use on both a 10-foot Tady 1097 for smaller to mid-size jigs [mostly Tady C's and some Tady 45's] and also on a CUI-13 trimmed to 10 feet with a #14 tip, which I use mostly with 7X's and also sometimes Tady 45's.
It is indeed a bit heavier than some other reels, weighing 27 oz. vs. 22 oz. for a traditional Penn 500, but casts like a dream due to the "disconnecting pinion gear", generates over 30 pounds of drag "stock", and has outstanding cranking power due to the "double-wide" gears.
The weight tradeoff is improved even more by the won't-fail "double-dog" anti-reverse, backing up the one-way handle bearing.
If most of your surface iron fishing is mainly for barracuda and calicos, then the weight issue may be important due to all-day repetitive casting concerns. But if you regularly go after yellowtail and other large fish then you will be much more prone to "opportunistic" casting at a boil, a picking bird, or other visual sign, in which case you simply won't feel it.
I set mine up with 250 yards of 50-pound spectra, then add a topshot of 100 yards of 40-pound mono, and although some 22-year old deckhands can cast into the spectra when they borrow it, my personal best is still about 3 yards shy of that.
This 55-year old geezer has landed several yellowtail over 40 pounds and wahoo over 60 pounds with those rigs [with the 10 foot rods], so the mechanical advantage given by the reels does help a lot.
BTW, for true local jig casting with very small iron like Tady A1's, the little TRQ100 holds 200 yards of 40 pound spectra plus a 100-yard topshot of 25 pound mono, and generates over 20 pounds of drag stock.

Ya, the Torques just don't get much love around here though I love mine. I guess they aren't sexy enough and these guys are afraid to try anything new .




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[1:11]

No, just a tank of a reel. Too heavy, and who cares about 30# of drag when you are fishing 30-40# line. Guys arent affraid to try new stuff, we do all the time. Those reels are tanks and there are plenty of alternatives. Now if they made them in blue, red, purple, silver, and black maybe they would be just right.

[tunanorth]

Originally Posted by Lend-a-Fish

No, just a tank of a reel. Too heavy, and who cares about 30# of drag when you are fishing 30-40# line. Guys arent affraid to try new stuff, we do all the time. Those reels are tanks and there are plenty of alternatives. Now if they made them in blue, red, purple, silver, and black maybe they would be just right.

During the 6-month field-test period, I had about a half-dozen fully-rigged Torque outfits that I let people use, mostly aboard San Diego boats.
Not a single person ever said that the reels felt heavy, just that they liked the cranking power, freespool, etc.
Granted, the TRQ300 is a "specialty item", primarily intended for wahoo bombs and yo-yo'ing big iron for big yellows, not much for local anglers except maybe pitching live mackerel at striped marlin.
However, with the TRQ200 mounted up on a 9 or 10-foot jigstick with a Tady 45 tied on, you can't feel the difference.
Tossing iron all day long for calicos "Dave Rader style" you might feel more tired at the end of the day, the question is do the other advantages balance out [perhaps not for that].
Once you are fishing for larger/stronger fish, the action becomes much more opportunistic, and you won't be making nearly as many casts.
In fact, blind casting all day for yellowtail is mostly a waste of time.
At that point, a minor difference in overall weight that gives you much more cranking power [at any drag setting], better casting [at equivalent line capacity], double-dog anti-reverse, etc, etc., then it is pretty likely that those things will help you catch more fish.
The major mechanical cranking advantage allows use of that 9 or even 10-footer that had intimidated you before.
Specifically for flylining small baits, a TRQ100 on an 800XL or even a 900XL launches baits as well or better than any comparable-capacity "aluminum" spool conventional reel [classic Penn 145 size]; of course graphite spools are a bit lighter, so there's always going to be that strength vs. weight tradeoff.

[dolphin7]

I have both the TRQ 100 and TRQ200 on 800XL and 800L fantastic setup and can outcast anybody I've fished with so far. Love those reels.

[Gonzofam]

MY unlikely suspect is the avet LX tuned for throwing. If you pull the spool berrings, then pull the sheilds and pack both sides with blue yamaha grease or my choice, Red penzoil grease and reaply the sheilds. The best cast controll you'll get out of an Avet. Just enough pressure for 3,4,5 oz tossing. This is because up to 3 day trips, 4 reels is enough for me. Before Avet , Newell is a tossing dream + upgraded drags.

[Steve K]

I would skip the Saltist 30 and go with a Saltist 40 for tossing the surface plug for Yellowtail. The clamp for the 30 is a genuine pain in the ass as the narrow frame uses those funky bent bolts. The clamp arrangement for the 40 lends itself better to clamping it up on a jigstick worthy of fishing trophy Yellows. And the Saltist fishes well right out of the box.

[coryellk]

Originally Posted by Gonzofam

MY unlikely suspect is the avet LX tuned for throwing. If you pull the spool berrings, then pull the sheilds and pack both sides with blue yamaha grease or my choice, Red penzoil grease and reaply the sheilds. The best cast controll you'll get out of an Avet. Just enough pressure for 3,4,5 oz tossing. This is because up to 3 day trips, 4 reels is enough for me. Before Avet , Newell is a tossing dream + upgraded drags.

Grease is great on pinion bearings, and any other bearing that doesn't touch the spool shaft. It seriously retards your freespool when you put it on spool shaft bearings. I only recommend this for the once-a-year maintenance crowd.

[lasparky11]

800M calstar with the 30T great setup. On a lighter note I put a cork puppy on the rod it takes 3 hands & small boy to install but well worth it. I just picked up a TN16 to put on my 800L see how that works this weekend.