heaviest lb line on reels???

[WFO]

I recon there is a line poundage limit on all reels. Or at least I think there is.

Is there really a max lb test on a reel.

Say for instance a luna 253. Would 50lb spectra be to much on that reel and use it to fish yellow tail? Would a reel implode on itself?


I ask this because if you look at the specs on the box of each reel they have a lb test/yards. if it says ...i.e.

Daiwa Team Daiwa Luna® Casting Reel
Model	Line Capacity (yds./lb. test)	Gear Ratio	BBs	Weight (oz.)
TD Luna 103	135/10	5.8:1	5+1	9.7
TD Luna 203	180/12	5.1:1	5+1	10.9
TD Luna 253	195/14	5.1:1	5+1	11.1
TD Luna 300	245/17	5.1:1	5+1	12.9

CTE-200GT	190/10	5.0:1	10.2	10+1
CTE-300	240/12	5.0:1	12.5	4+1
CTE-400	260/14	5.0:1	12.8	4+1

So does that mean each reel was specifically made for that lb/yardage indicated?


I'm not sure if I'm asking the question right.

[unskunkable]

i think it has more to do with the drag capabilities those charts only show capacaties

[fishnfool]

Originally Posted by WFO

I recon there is a line poundage limit on all reels. Or at least I think there is.

Is there really a max lb test on a reel.

Say for instance a luna 253. Would 50lb spectra be to much on that reel and use it to fish yellow tail? Would a reel implode on itself?


I ask this because if you look at the specs on the box of each reel they have a lb test/yards. if it says ...i.e.




So does that mean each reel was specifically made for that lb/yardage indicated?


I'm not sure if I'm asking the question right.

Good question. The charts you put up are more a guideline for line capacity as already stated. Most people use spectra on reels to increase line capacity...50# spectra has app. the same line diameter as 12# mono for example. While this allows for heavier line it does not mean the drags on the reel you are using will handle the heavier line. A reel designed to fish 12# normally will not produce the 16# of drag you could use with 50#. The drag is just one consideration however. Even if the reel will produce enough drag there are other important things to consider. The frames, gears, or bearings may not handle the extra drag pressure.

The TLD 30II for example will produce enough drag to fish 80# test or even a little higher however, if you use that much drag the frame, (which is graphite), may crack or break because it is not designed to handle that much torque. I have seen the reel seat break off, and the side plate break on several of these reels for this reason, especially when these reels are strapped into a fighting belt/harness.

An example of a smaller reel would be Abu Garcia. Some of these have nylon gears. Even if the drag will handle the heavier line if it is set to high you can strip out the gears on these and similarly designed reels.

Bearings are another thing to consider. Putting more pressure on the bearings than they are designed for can be a disaster. They simply fall apart, or lock up if overfished. If it happens to be your anti-reverse bearing you suddenly have an old fashioned knuckle buster in your hands, (this will usually happen when you are fighting the biggest fish of your life, or the JP contender).

As you can see there are many important factors to consider when choosing a reel. Line size/capacity is just one. Hope this helps.

[hucklongfin]

My Daiwa Millionaire CVX253 and CVZ300 have 3/0 drags and I put Penn ht-100's in the 253. I assume the Luna's are at least that good. Meaning they're up to fishing 30# line with spectra backing.

[tuner]

I own the Luna 103, luna 300, and the calcutta 200GTB.

I run 8lb Fireline on the 103, 14lb Fireline on the 200GTB and 30lb Sufix braid on the 300.

The Sufix is my "New" favorite superline, no "break-in", awesome casting out of the box

In my opinion the lunas are the shiznit. The 200GTB is a nice reel but lacks the smoothness and free-spool of the Lunas.

Daiwa/Shimano rate the max drags as follows:

reel---------max drag (lbs)
-------------------------
Luna 103--------8.8

CT100-----------9.5

Luna 203/253---11.0

CT200----------11.0

Luna300--------15.4

CT400----------17.5 !!!


Tight lines and smooth drags!

Steve

[Double Z]

Wow! 15lbs of drag from the Luna! I have wanted one for a while. Might have to fish one on the Thom Hultgen Memorial 8-day and kill some Yellow Fin Tuna with it... I'm thinking 20 or 30lb spiderwire to a very short 25lb flouro leader. HMMMMMM.

[WFO]

Originally Posted by Double Z

Wow! 15lbs of drag from the Luna! I have wanted one for a while. Might have to fish one on the Thom Hultgen Memorial 8-day and kill some Yellow Fin Tuna with it... I'm thinking 20 or 30lb spiderwire to a very short 25lb flouro leader. HMMMMMM.

Snatch this luna up before its gooone......

Its not a 300 though, but still a good buy.


Bass, Saltwater, and JDM rods and reels
6) Daiwa Luna 103. Box, papers, oil, reel bag, etc. Upgraded recently with carbontex drag and ceramic spool bearings. In excellent condition.
165 OBO

7) Daiwa Luna 253. Just the reel, no box or papers. In mint condition.
160 OBO




There is no luna 303, I think you mean the 203 and I believe its the same size as the calcutta 200 te

[WFO]

Originally Posted by tuner

I own the Luna 103, luna 303, and the calcutta 200GTB.

I run 8lb Fireline on the 103, 14lb Fireline on the 200GTB and 30lb Sufix braid on the 303.

The Sufix is my "New" favorite superline, no "break-in", awesome casting out of the box

In my opinion the lunas are the shiznit. The 200GTB is a nice reel but lacks the smoothness and free-spool of the Lunas.

Daiwa/Shimano rate the max drags as follows:

reel---------max drag (lbs)
-------------------------
Luna 103--------8.8

CT100-----------9.5

Luna 203/253---11.0

CT200----------11.0

Luna303--------15.4

CT400----------17.5 !!!


Tight lines and smooth drags!

Steve

They dont make a luna 303, i think you mean the 203 or 300

IF your information is accurate then Man!! I'd pick the luna 203/253 over the CT for sure (used that is).

Is the 200TE series the same drag presure as the calcutta 200? My thinking is it is not due to the HEG gearing on the TE series. But if it is then luna is a better buy.

[WFO]

Originally Posted by hucklongfin

My Daiwa Millionaire CVX253 and CVZ300 have 3/0 drags and I put Penn ht-100's in the 253. I assume the Luna's are at least that good. Meaning they're up to fishing 30# line with spectra backing.

I woulndt mind buying a japanese model of the CVZ, then buying the external breaking system on it. FRom what I read it should be better then the Luna. Dont get me wrong the luna is a dam good reel too.


30lb line......i was thinking about putting at least 50lb spectra on the luna 253 and maybe on the 203 series. Or I would do the same as you Huckongfin and put 30lb on the 203.

Thank you for the reply as usual Hucklongfin

[WFO]

Originally Posted by fishnfool

Good question. The charts you put up are more a guideline for line capacity as already stated. Most people use spectra on reels to increase line capacity...50# spectra has app. the same line diameter as 12# mono for example. While this allows for heavier line it does not mean the drags on the reel you are using will handle the heavier line. A reel designed to fish 12# normally will not produce the 16# of drag you could use with 50#. The drag is just one consideration however. Even if the reel will produce enough drag there are other important things to consider. The frames, gears, or bearings may not handle the extra drag pressure.

The TLD 30II for example will produce enough drag to fish 80# test or even a little higher however, if you use that much drag the frame, (which is graphite), may crack or break because it is not designed to handle that much torque. I have seen the reel seat break off, and the side plate break on several of these reels for this reason, especially when these reels are strapped into a fighting belt/harness.

An example of a smaller reel would be Abu Garcia. Some of these have nylon gears. Even if the drag will handle the heavier line if it is set to high you can strip out the gears on these and similarly designed reels.

Bearings are another thing to consider. Putting more pressure on the bearings than they are designed for can be a disaster. They simply fall apart, or lock up if overfished. If it happens to be your anti-reverse bearing you suddenly have an old fashioned knuckle buster in your hands, (this will usually happen when you are fighting the biggest fish of your life, or the JP contender).

As you can see there are many important factors to consider when choosing a reel. Line size/capacity is just one. Hope this helps.

So according to you guys are putting spectra on the reel just for extra yardage and not the capability of the reels.

I mean I am starting to put spectra on all my reel but what I'm afraid of is using a smaller reel for bigger fish.

I.e. use a luna 253 with 50-65lb spectra on it to fish for tougher fish, like yellowtail.

What I'm afraid of is that since I put heavier line I'm more incline to work the reel that it was not designed for and then finding out I made the reel turn in a direction that it was not made for.

[tuner]

Luna 300 NOT 303. Sorry, my bad.

Steve

[WFO]

For you guys that own a daiwa luna 300, I found out on another forum that the luna 300 has a bushing where you can replace with a bearing.

If your in to opening up a reel and working on it yourself then this would be a great benefit to you.