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Old Jun-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #13
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I'm the one that taught you to use 30lb+. Little snot nosed butt scratcher.
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I'm the one that taught you to use 30lb+. Little snot nosed butt scratcher.

and look how many fish I loose becuase of that
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Old Jun-20-2006, 09:47 PM   #17
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1) Light line is really a pussy way to fish when you think about it pulling on a 40 lb fish with 8lb of drag for an hour is like going to the gym and working with little dumbbells.

1a) 37 pound Albie on Sunday...over 150 yards of line out on a long soak with maybe 5 pounds of drag in less than 15 minutes. 40 pounder at 8 pounds of drag one hour??? Who's the pussy Justin? slap:

2) A true sportsman uses more difficult techniques and conserves the resource.

2a) I am offended that you would think I am not a true sportsman because of the line size I choose to fish with...just a little narrow minded of you don't you think? Is it really more difficult to land a fish on 50 pound than on 15? I think not. What fun is there in winching in a fish on gear so heavy you barely get a bend in the rod? Heavy line is not a technique...it is heavy line.

3) The boats this weekend that had a few guys fishing the heavy caught more fish than the average, especially the bluefin. That stuff will eat heavy line and keep eating until the one guy gets bit on 10 lb and shuts it off.
My advice is to start heavy and then go light.

3a) Must be nice to be able to get on all 20 or so Sporties that were out there in one weekend. Could we please only speak from what we actually experienced ourselves, and not hearsay? Anyone that has pursued Blue Fin Tuna know these fish are line shy as any species can be on any given day...that's why so many people use the florocarbon, or go to lighter line so they can get bit. I have seen many days out there when the fish would not touch anything heavier than 20# line...sometimes 15#. With your theory on this with you soaking 40#, and not getting bit, and me catching my limit on 15# I guess it would be my fault the fish wouldn't bite your line, and we wouldn't be friends anymore.

4) But in the end you can fish what ever you want you are the paying customer, loosing fish on the light shit is better than not getting bit on the heavy for most people. For what it is worth this is my opinon what is yours?

4a) I think the "paying customer" part is significant considering your opinion. I am sure most people that make their living, full time or part time catching fish, and needing a good count to fill their boat would agree with most of your logic...and you do make a lot of good points I don't want to take anything away from that. You put a lot of good info out there, and food for thought. I'm just throwing out a few more things in the mix.


5) Notice I said heaviest line possible, not the heaviest line you own. in all honesty based on the conditions light line is needed to get your bait away from the boat especially with sluggish bait. For the most part I belive that 25-30 lb should be considered the median. forty is getting heavy and 20 is getting light this is for so cal offshore fishing. when fishing the kelp or bay the game is much different and fish what is needed based on the size bait you are fishing.

5a) The best statement in this thread. IMHO
With all that said...any advice, or opinions on fishing should be welcomed here. We all enjoy the same sport, and can learn from this type of discussion if we can keep an open mind. As for me...I really enjoy catching the biggest fish I can on the lightest tackle possible. It is one way I challenge myself, and it helps me improve my skills. If I lose a fish it's no big deal. Sure I like to go home with limits like everyone else but I also like the challenge of light tackle. I don't have nearly as much fun grinding in fish on heavy gear, but that's just me. I will admit that I will put away the light stuff if there are bigger fish around that are biting heavier line...especially after getting worked by a big fish on the light stuff, but also for some of the reasons you pointed out in this thread. I don't believe the fish will stop biting heavier line just because there is lighter line in the area, but there is a higher probability of loosing fish on light tackle, and when you do lose one it can cause the school to leave because they will follow the fish that is hauling ass away from you as fast as it can...especially Albacore. So out of consideration of the other people I am fishing with the light gear will go to the side. Like I said before...you do make a lot of good points as far as putting meat in the freezer. With the price of fuel, and maintaining your boat, and all the other costs involved in fishing these days I think your advice can help a lot more people take some fish home, and be rewarded for their effort.

Good thread Justin. Lots of good advice. When are we going fishing? I'll fish the 40# if you'll fish the 15#.
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Re: light line or heavy line that is the question?

I knew this would get interesting, even if it takes a retard on the stage. the whole point of this thread was to point out that fishing ultra light line should not be your go to bait rod for offshore fishing in my opinion. I tottaly agree that winding in 10 lb fish on eighty pound is not very sporting. After the boat puts together a score than fishing what ever floats your boat is fine. I fish two and four pound in the surf and bay all the time it is lots o fun especially when you are not meat fishing. hell I have even caught Yellow Fin Tuna on six pound. granted the fish was only five pounds it was a blast but after 15 minutes on a little fish it was pretty boring and the realese was impossible because the poor fucker was dead. I am all for the challenge of fishing and anything that is different is cool.
as for me being on all 20 boats last weekend what I heard was dock talk at seeing as how we got our ass kicked in the Blue Fin Tuna departement but did have the largest albacore count I know of. The overall concensus was that the boats that started hanging Blue Fin Tuna on the 25-30 got into plunkers the other boats that hooked fish first on the light string just got one or two fish out of each stop.
THank you kevin for editing my post with your comments I know you are a light line guy it is good for all to have both sides of the coin, and when we fish together I'd be happy to fish the 15 and you the 40, good luck bro
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