Fishing Chit Chat Thread, MONO TO FLOURO in Fishing Related; The other beauty of the uni-uni, works very well for dissamiliar lines.
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Jun-30-2005, 07:15 PM
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#13 | | Longboards Rule
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The other beauty of the uni-uni, works very well for dissamiliar lines.
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Jun-30-2005, 07:52 PM
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i hate fluoro
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Jun-30-2005, 09:15 PM
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Name: Jimmy Age: 31 Vessel: 16' Lund "Not Farmed!" Location: Mount Vernon, WA Job:Electronics Technician
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|  I hate cheap fluoro, I love quality fluoro. Seaguar is kind!  I, too have lost one too many fish on the mono/fluoro blood knot. Damn was I hot, first albie action and I bring in a limp line with the tag end of a shitty knot!
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Jun-30-2005, 10:23 PM
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#16 | | old skool rules
Name: #%^&) !!! Age: 52 Vessel: my blood vessel Location: Cyber Sea Job:Infraction Collector
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NO NO NO... mono breaks above specified spec and fluorocarbon breaks at rated. therefore, use the next size up on the fluorocarbon. 25lb mono, use 30 fluorocarbon. plus, the fish can't see it anyways, so go up one size.
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Jun-30-2005, 11:13 PM
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#17 | | formerly "chuam"
Name: Marcus Age: 35 Vessel: Tuna Jihad toilet cleaner Location: Carlsbad Job:other Bio: I wish I had gills
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Originally Posted by dalurker NO NO NO... mono breaks above specified spec and fluorocarbon breaks at rated. therefore, use the next size up on the fluorocarbon. 25lb mono, use 30 fluorocarbon. plus, the fish can't see it anyways, so go up one size. | Exactly. The best reason to use fluoro is because it is almost invisible underwater so you can go up in line strength and not have to worry about as many chew throughs. I usually fish the fluoro 10 lbs heavier than my mono.
Marcus
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Jul-01-2005, 10:31 AM
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#18 | | natural born jig slingers
Name: Brad Baron Age: 32 Vessel: Nada Location: Costa Rica Job:Bartender
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Originally Posted by chuam Exactly. The best reason to use fluoro is because it is almost invisible underwater so you can go up in line strength and not have to worry about as many chew throughs. I usually fish the fluoro 10 lbs heavier than my mono.
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Your bait will act different once you increase the size and diameter. If its invisible why not use 200#?
You can go up in line size but does not make much sense to me since you will be setting your drag for the main line, unless its solely for abrasion resistance, I don't get chewed off often around here.. Unless you have a very long leader of flouro since the pressure is greater near the fish but I assume we are talking short flouro leader locally. Iam not a scientist with exact breaking strength along with knot strength ect but I wouldn't do it. Attach 60lb flouro to 50lb mono go hang a big tuna.  That would take some of my pulling confidence away and I like to pull very hard.
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Jul-01-2005, 10:43 AM
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Uni to uni. Never had one fail on me yet.
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Jul-01-2005, 01:04 PM
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#20 | | old skool rules
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Originally Posted by ZZZZZ Your bait will act different once you increase the size and diameter. If its invisible why not use 200#?
You can go up in line size but does not make much sense to me since you will be setting your drag for the main line, unless its solely for abrasion resistance, I don't get chewed off often around here.. Unless you have a very long leader of flouro since the pressure is greater near the fish but I assume we are talking short flouro leader locally. Iam not a scientist with exact breaking strength along with knot strength ect but I wouldn't do it. Attach 60lb flouro to 50lb mono go hang a big tuna.  That would take some of my pulling confidence away and I like to pull very hard. | i recommended "ONE" step up. your drag should be set to the weakest link in the chain. with the fluorocarbon being one size up, the mono and fluorocarbon will be closer to equal.
as for changing the action, by upping one size, very little will happen. 200# c'mon now... let's be real here...
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Jul-01-2005, 01:44 PM
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#21 | | natural born jig slingers
Name: Brad Baron Age: 32 Vessel: Nada Location: Costa Rica Job:Bartender
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Originally Posted by dalurker i recommended "ONE" step up. your drag should be set to the weakest link in the chain. with the fluorocarbon being one size up, the mono and fluorocarbon will be closer to equal.
as for changing the action, by upping one size, very little will happen. 200# c'mon now... let's be real here... | Hey do what you want....
Iam being real. Just don't see any point to what you recommend. If iam going one size up well then my one size up is going on my mono that is one size up too. I don't use a calculator. I just do what I have learned or been taught from some serious fucking anglers, crew, and skippers.
Again go right ahead and splice in 1 size up and go hook a good fish locally. Just be sure to only pull as hard as the weakest link which is a few feet in back of the flouro.
And no Iam not bias just practical. For example my TI30 has hundreds of yards of 80# JB hollow, I then spliced in about 50 yards of 130lb hollow I can do that because the weakest link is 50 yards back and the extreme pressure is at the fishes mouth.
Also the point of flouro is to be more stealth. Most go down one size if anything? Why would you go up on your leader trying to be stealth?
What size fish and type have you killed on your one up in small diameter lines.?
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Jul-01-2005, 01:55 PM
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#22 | | Registered User
Name: Ron Age: 47 Vessel: 18' Bayrunner CC Location: Coronado Job:Construction Management
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To Quote Capt. Brian during our trip last week. "If you think fluoro is invisible....Then who am I to argue! Do what feels good"
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Jul-01-2005, 01:57 PM
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#23 | | old skool rules
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offshore i use 50lb spectra to my fluorocarbon topshot which is: 80lb J.B. hollow via loop to loop w/ sato crimps to the fluorocarbon.
inshore i just use J.B. solid to mono via uni to unit. should the bite get picky, a three foot fluorocarbon leader gets put on.
largest fish light line?
Offshore: 120lbish Yellow Fin Tuna on 40lb w/900H and a progear 545 skippin' a 7X.
inshore: 55lb croaker 25lb fluorocarbon on a 870 boss magnum. let's see what the rest of the boyz have to say... this will be a great topic for discussion! |
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Jul-01-2005, 02:09 PM
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#24 | | natural born jig slingers
Name: Brad Baron Age: 32 Vessel: Nada Location: Costa Rica Job:Bartender
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Originally Posted by dalurker offshore i use 50lb spectra to my fluorocarbon topshot which is: 80lb J.B. hollow via loop to loop w/ sato crimps to the fluorocarbon.
inshore i just use J.B. solid to mono via uni to unit. should the bite get picky, a three foot fluorocarbon leader gets put on.
largest fish light line?
Offshore: 120lbish Yellow Fin Tuna on 40lb w/900H and a progear 545 skippin' a 7X.
inshore: 55lb croaker 25lb fluorocarbon on a 870 boss magnum. | What???????????
You use 50lb spectra to your flourcarbon top shot which is is 80lb JB hollow via loop to loop with sato crimps to your flouro. I did not know Line One made Flouro in hollow  . Dude you might want to re read what you wrote or take some time to compose while giving tackle advice because you make zero sense. I dont understand what you wrote and I really hope it does not make any sense becuase if it does Iam now lost.
Sure I have lots of loop to loops made up. Most are 130lb JB hollow, 90-180lb Seaguar flouro 10-15', Sato crimps, JB glue, loop to loop.
I did not ask you what your best fish is. I asked what your best fish is on your tackle recommendation to someone who was asking a question.
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