How Do I? Need Hooping Help (Lobsters!!!!!)

Spicy Tuna · Nov-06-2009, 03:08 PM

I'm heading out of Point Loma on Sat evening in hopes of catching some bugs. Kinda first time so wanted to get some tips. Bait, Depth etc. Any information is greatly appreciated.

45king · Nov-06-2009, 03:11 PM

fresh bait is a plus( macs or bonita). dont be in a rush to start pulling. take your time and make sure you are straight up and down before you start pulling. I have seen bugs jump out if you pull the nets at an angle. its a really sucky feeling. haha.. good luck. i require a 10% fee for my 2 cents. haha GOOD LUCK

Lobdivr3030 · Nov-06-2009, 03:14 PM

I have seen bugs crawl out before they're pulled up. I have seen bugs crawl towards an empty net, even crawl towards me!..but I'm real happy about that!

wsbkiller · Nov-06-2009, 04:11 PM

Out of Pt. Loma a good depth is anywhere from 20-50 ft., but not near as important as location. I usually stick to the mouth of the bay, or around jetty. If you're going tonight, the regulars won't be hard to spot--just find an area near everyone else, check your depth fider, and go with it. You can always move after your first pull.
Skipjack works best for bait, or tuna carcasses if you have them. I usually just tie a half skipjack directly to the bottom of the net, the bugs and crabs like it better when they can get all over your bait. If the sea lions start getting on your bait, just tie a bait cage to the bottom of your net, and stuff the bait in. Good luck!

Spicy Tuna · Nov-06-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wsbkiller

Out of Pt. Loma a good depth is anywhere from 20-50 ft., but not near as important as location. I usually stick to the mouth of the bay, or around jetty. If you're going tonight, the regulars won't be hard to spot--just find an area near everyone else, check your depth fider, and go with it. You can always move after your first pull.
Skipjack works best for bait, or tuna carcasses if you have them. I usually just tie a half skipjack directly to the bottom of the net, the bugs and crabs like it better when they can get all over your bait. If the sea lions start getting on your bait, just tie a bait cage to the bottom of your net, and stuff the bait in. Good luck!

Righteous Kevin! Thanks. The last time I tried the seals were getting my bait that was inside my net. I would pull it up empty. Thanks everyone! One more question. I built a cage and have been getting mixed information on using them. In the DFG book says that you can use one if there is two openings with some other restrictions as well but some people say you can't. Anyone know the truth on this?

Saba Slayer · Nov-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Spicy Tuna I think wsbkiller is talking about BAIT CAGES. As far as I know there is no mention about bait cages in the DFG regs.
You can only catch Losters by hand or with a hoop net. Only licensed commercial guys can use traps or cages. Look for a BIG FINE if DFG catches you out there with any kind of cage or trap.
" If you're going tonight, the regulars won't be hard to spot--just find an area near everyone else"... wsbkiller...you must not be hooping in that area tonight!!! Not such great advise to stick a newbie on top of somebody elses nets. I'm sure the guys that are out tonight will appreciate that gem. If you do go this route, please give the other boats enough room to safely operate around your floats and ropes. If you're going to go with the crowds, PLEASE light your floats or at least mark your floats with DOT type reflective tape so it's easy for the other boats to keep your rope out of their props. Also weight or tie-up/bundle your excess rope to help control it. you only need about 10' to 15' of additional rope for the depth you're planning to hoop.
Jim / Saba Slayer

bigsnookied · Nov-07-2009, 09:50 AM

Make sure your scent trail is drifting toward the structure as opposed to away from it. We went out a few weeks back and were on the south side of the jetty, we two legal and 15 or so shorts. The guys on the north side got 10 legals. We used fried chicken as the back up bait but ended up eating most of it ourselves, as went out early and caught a few fish for cut bait. We mixed the chicken bones and bait and put it in the bait cage. We set six spaced over a few hundred yards and checked em every 15-20 minutes. Once we got through all 6 we would wait about 10-15 and start the rotation all over again. Look out for the rays and sculpin in the nets too.

Trayscool · Nov-07-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsnookied

We used fried chicken as the back up bait but ended up eating most of it ourselves, as went out early and caught a few fish for cut bait. .

fried chicken going to waste

Bigfish69 · Nov-07-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

Spicy Tuna I think wsbkiller is talking about BAIT CAGES. As far as I know there is no mention about bait cages in the DFG regs.
You can only catch Losters by hand or with a hoop net. Only licensed commercial guys can use traps or cages. Look for a BIG FINE if DFG catches you out there with any kind of cage or trap.
" If you're going tonight, the regulars won't be hard to spot--just find an area near everyone else"... wsbkiller...you must not be hooping in that area tonight!!! Not such great advise to stick a newbie on top of somebody elses nets. I'm sure the guys that are out tonight will appreciate that gem. If you do go this route, please give the other boats enough room to safely operate around your floats and ropes. If you're going to go with the crowds, PLEASE light your floats or at least mark your floats with DOT type reflective tape so it's easy for the other boats to keep your rope out of their props. Also weight or tie-up/bundle your excess rope to help control it. you only need about 10' to 15' of additional rope for the depth you're planning to hoop.
Jim / Saba Slayer

Jim thanks for brinnging that up! Generally if your a newbee, try and give the old see dogs a little room it makes for a way better night for everyone. Besides you cant catch bugs when your rope or somone elses rope is in your prop.

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