Does Anyone Watch Whale Wars?

[WAR]

my 2 cent;

I liked what I saw on the web (youtube), because it was cut short and it was hardcore bad ass.

Did not like what I saw on TV, thought it was too staged and reckless.

I like their (Sea Shepards) Ideals but on TV they came off like assholes.

[Lil Ceez]

I AM AGAINST WHAILING......

That being said, what these "Sea Sheppards" do is indeed PIRACY!

To board another vessel without the Captains permission....PIRACY!

To try and foul a prop while a ship is underway..................PIRACY!

Not to mention, their "Logo" depicts a pirate.....Bit ironic, aint it?

A bunch of ASSHATS that think they can save the world by getting on the boob tube and assuming a posission of "greenpeace" thinking that will make a difference.......COME ON!

The seas should be saved, but not by a bunch of idiots!

FUCK THOSE GUYS AND GALS...................rant over.

And believe you me, ive got plenty of other views on this show, just dont wanna type em all.


Holla

Lil ceez

[c-goat]

Im totally with ceez on this one.
The episode where they put out that rope and bouy to snag and entangle the prop so as to disable that ship.This kind of behavior absolutley just blows my fucking mind.
These enviro clowns are fucking terrorists.

[MATTANZA]

if i was out there i'd f'n nuke every whaling boat, no exceptions. whalers r the scum of the earth. the fr's eat dolphin too.those guys on the sea sheppard r a bunch of douche bags. if they're going to pull that type of shit... go all the way and sink the whole whaling fleet and get it over with. that would be making a statement. f all whaling boats and thier crews.

[Lil Ceez]

Whaling is by far HELMET!

But these clowns are just about as dumb!

"Hostages"...my ass!

The Japanese shoud have shot, and threw there dumb asses off the boat!

That would have been a sweet "prop fouling"


Holla

Lil ceez

[Husker Heaven]

Agree with Ceez- watched it with my two boys who are 5 and 8 and had to keep explaining to them that even though the whalers are wrong - so were the tactics the Sea Shepard is using to try and stop them. That led to a discussion about radical behavior and beliefs, etc.

Pretty heavy stuff for young kids, but since the Sea Shepherds crews behavior was so irrational (send your crew members to board another boat then say they were taken hostage?); it actually made it easier for them to understand.

Entertaining because I'm amazed at how these people think, but I put these idiots in the same class as PETA.

[GiantSquid]

Many good points on this thread - totally agree that these guys are clowns to an almost unbelievable degree, but still respect that they are TRYING TO DO FUCKING ANYTHING AT ALL unlike any sovereign nation that has banned whaling. As you can see the Greenpace/non- confrontation NGO plan of raising awareness does absolutely nothing on this issue at all, as no one will enforce anti-whaling laws put in place by "aware" people.

No one has the stones the enforce international whaling laws against the Japanese because of the financial carrot they hold.

[Torsk]

Must agree with most of this stuff. Ban whaling!

The Japanese should have immediately been friendly and invited the boarders inside and out of sight of the cameras and beat the living shit out of them. They could have claimed the boarders went psycho on them and needed to restrain them.

The skipper/founder of Shepard had to go to his bed because he was getting callouses on his arse from sitting around for 36 hours thinking up ways of how to get everyone on his boat killed.

If the Shepard morons are trying to foul the whalers prop, you'd think they would have used something substantial like at least a 7" braided polyprop. Instead they use 65lb spectra. WTF?

And the stink bombs. Answer that by firing a rope across the bow of the Steve Irwin and fouling their prop. Give the bastards something real to complain about.

I'm sure most of you guys have seen whales in the wild and they are magnificent creatures and command respect.

I agree it's only a matter of time before there is blood shed or I am going to watch deadliest catch re-runs.

Rant over

[DenisB]

Beware the real strategy behind the Japanese whaling.
In short: they are prepared to ( and have been for a decade ) to trade a stop to the whale research /harvest in return for access to other fish in other countries EEZ waters & international waters fishery management arrangements.
Read as less tuna for you & your countries fishermen.
A couple of quick corrections
1.
Sea Shepherd is not an Australian vessel & the reference to being based out of Australia is merely that is where they leave for the Antarctic from & return to for fuel & supplies...........under international law we cannot stop them only restrict what they can do when in port..............even if they are criminals.
2.
Australia keeps them out of our waters in Antarctica ( we control the largest amount of waters ) .
3.
Australian Govt charters a non-military surveillance vessel to shadow the Whalers in our waters in the Antarctic and initiate arrest if they take any whales in our waters.
4.
Australia is a lead Govt agency in trying to have the entire southern ocean declared a whale sanctuary.
5.
Most of the Sea Sheperd funding comes from radicals in the US.

I personally support real managed sustainable cultural harvest in any nations EEZ waters , of mammals ( whales , seas, dolphin/porpoise etc ) FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION where it is an ethnic dietary item.

The concern that if whaling ceases , Sea Shepherd will focus their attention on the harvest of another marine species.............is very real.
They have already done this and sank a large fishing trawler in the North Sea a few years ago................and got off lightly.

They have no support if they get into difficulties in International waters and will rely on the International Marine Safety Rules ( SOLAS ) to save them.
If this happens .......lets hope the International Resue effort focuses on evacuating the silly humans and leaves the vessel to rot.
If any such rescue effort also recovers the vessel it would be hoped that the full commercial liabilities of salvage and assistance costs are levied on the vessel owners to put them into bankruptcy and the vessel scrapped by the rescue agency involved.
These cretins and their antics should not be tolerated anywhere in the waters of the world, their malicious voyages should not qualify for any cost relief.
They are deliberately manipulating 'right of way' situations with vessels larger & slower & less manouverable than themselves & are not obeying the international rules on collision avoidance themselves.
In doing this they show that they are the lowest human lifeform acting outside the law and endangering others as well as themselves.
The fools that boarded the Japanese vessel were only saved from the full weight of international law as reflected in japanese maritime law by the fact that they were completely unarmed and did not have so much as a pocket knife in their possession able to reasonably enable interpretation as a weapon.
The master of a vessel in International waters is the law of the flag country of his vessel.
Other issues are that under mandated US law reflected in international anti-terrorism arrangements every commercial vessel engaged in possible inter-port activity is required to have a vessel security plan.
ie authorised persons only
breaches of vessel security is a statutory offence with massive punitive penalties.
If the Japanese vessel had such a security plan in force the fools that boarded should have been arrested and held in a makeshift brig and taken back to Japan for trial.

A diet of nice fresh whale meat on their trip back to japan should sort them out & give them plenty of time to reflect on their stupidity.......... preferably whale anus.

[MikeyLikesIt]

I guess the only thing that keeps me tuned in is the total disregard for human life, someone is going to die soon.

why else own a Television?

[ahidog]

Nothing more needs to be said

Originally Posted by DenisB

Beware the real strategy behind the Japanese whaling.
In short: they are prepared to ( and have been for a decade ) to trade a stop to the whale research /harvest in return for access to other fish in other countries EEZ waters & international waters fishery management arrangements.
Read as less tuna for you & your countries fishermen.
A couple of quick corrections
1.
Sea Shepherd is not an Australian vessel & the reference to being based out of Australia is merely that is where they leave for the Antarctic from & return to for fuel & supplies...........under international law we cannot stop them only restrict what they can do when in port..............even if they are criminals.
2.
Australia keeps them out of our waters in Antarctica ( we control the largest amount of waters ) .
3.
Australian Govt charters a non-military surveillance vessel to shadow the Whalers in our waters in the Antarctic and initiate arrest if they take any whales in our waters.
4.
Australia is a lead Govt agency in trying to have the entire southern ocean declared a whale sanctuary.
5.
Most of the Sea Sheperd funding comes from radicals in the US.

I personally support real managed sustainable cultural harvest in any nations EEZ waters , of mammals ( whales , seas, dolphin/porpoise etc ) FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION where it is an ethnic dietary item.

The concern that if whaling ceases , Sea Shepherd will focus their attention on the harvest of another marine species.............is very real.
They have already done this and sank a large fishing trawler in the North Sea a few years ago................and got off lightly.

They have no support if they get into difficulties in International waters and will rely on the International Marine Safety Rules ( SOLAS ) to save them.
If this happens .......lets hope the International Resue effort focuses on evacuating the silly humans and leaves the vessel to rot.
If any such rescue effort also recovers the vessel it would be hoped that the full commercial liabilities of salvage and assistance costs are levied on the vessel owners to put them into bankruptcy and the vessel scrapped by the rescue agency involved.
These cretins and their antics should not be tolerated anywhere in the waters of the world, their malicious voyages should not qualify for any cost relief.
They are deliberately manipulating 'right of way' situations with vessels larger & slower & less manouverable than themselves & are not obeying the international rules on collision avoidance themselves.
In doing this they show that they are the lowest human lifeform acting outside the law and endangering others as well as themselves.
The fools that boarded the Japanese vessel were only saved from the full weight of international law as reflected in japanese maritime law by the fact that they were completely unarmed and did not have so much as a pocket knife in their possession able to reasonably enable interpretation as a weapon.
The master of a vessel in International waters is the law of the flag country of his vessel.
Other issues are that under mandated US law reflected in international anti-terrorism arrangements every commercial vessel engaged in possible inter-port activity is required to have a vessel security plan.
ie authorised persons only
breaches of vessel security is a statutory offence with massive punitive penalties.
If the Japanese vessel had such a security plan in force the fools that boarded should have been arrested and held in a makeshift brig and taken back to Japan for trial.

A diet of nice fresh whale meat on their trip back to japan should sort them out & give them plenty of time to reflect on their stupidity.......... preferably whale anus.

[Jan from Humbol]

I've watched these people and am wondering why someone hasn't been thrown into irons and called a pirate.

When you forcibly board another vessel on the high seas you are a pirate and ought to be treated as such.

Board me on the ocean without legal authority and you are going to be treated to a fish bat massage and tossed back over the side if you survive good, if you don't crabs need to eat too.

What wrongs these enviros claim ought to be persued in court not via attacks on the high seas.