Fishing Chit Chat Thread, Dropper loop frustration in Fishing Related; Aaarrrggghh.
I know how to tie the stupid knot, but is there a way to keep the loop I'm trying ...  | | 
May-18-2008, 03:49 PM
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#1 | | Senior Fossil
Name: Jack Age: 48 Vessel: 21 Parker CC "Calafia" Location: Bay Park Job:De-Fishing Soap Lady's Husband
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Aaarrrggghh.
I know how to tie the stupid knot, but is there a way to keep the loop I'm trying to from from slipping back through the knot when I snug it up?
I've tried varying the number of initial turns and snugging different parts of the loop and tag ends, but 90% of the time when I try to cinch it, the loop just pulls back through the turns. It's almost as though the line is too slick.
Most of the ones that do cinch down, the line is all bent and weakened near the loop.
Must have dozed off that day in fishing 101 class, so any help would be, er, helpful.
Jack
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May-18-2008, 05:15 PM
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#2 | | Registered User
Name: Rob Age: 40 Vessel: 24 Sea Pro CC Location: Philly (It is closer to God's Country than San Diego) Job:Govt
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Get a pack of 3 way swivels and be done with it.
Country
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May-18-2008, 05:19 PM
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#3 | | Master Baiter
Name: Mark Age: 45 Vessel: USS Drum SSN 677 Location: Carlsbad Job:Hero of the Stupid
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Surgeon's loop... Dropper Loop is antiquated and not very strong.
Really easy, just Google it or PM me.
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May-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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#4 | | Registered User
Name: Grady Age: 18 Vessel: It's my dad's but it is a 24' fiberform Location: Long Beach Job:Los Cerritos Wetlands Stewards inc. worked there since jan. of 2007. info of what it's about at lcwstewards.org
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Hold the loop part in with your teeth then cinch down.
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May-18-2008, 05:44 PM
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#5 | | Registered User
Name: Dude Vessel: SANITY Location: San Diego, CA Job:Work to Live- Live to fish-
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Originally Posted by yknot  Hold the loop part in with your teeth then cinch down. | I second that- put the loop in your mouth to hold it- make sure that the line is not twisted around away from the loop- when the line has really bad memory- (or good memory however you look at it) I tend to have the problem youre having more often than not.
Just put it in your mouth...in your MotherF---ing Mouth!
Hope this helps...
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May-18-2008, 05:48 PM
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#6 | | Captain
Name: Roxanne Swift Age: 55 Vessel: not yet Location: Downey Job:Playin' with chemicals
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FishkillerBill married me because I could tie a dropper loop. Hold the loop in your mouth, then pull evenly on both ends. Make sure you twist the line 5 times, then pull the loop through hold and tighten.
Most people make the mistake of starting out with too short of a loop, it will pull some upon tightening.
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May-18-2008, 06:08 PM
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#7 | | Captain
Name: kerry way Vessel: 18' javalin Location: fayetteville ar Job:store manager OUTDOOR AMERICA Bio: arrow flingin',rod wrappin' critter killing son of a gun!
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spider hitch works well also.
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May-18-2008, 07:04 PM
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#8 | | That A Boy...
Name: Tim Age: 47 Vessel: None Location: San Clemente Job:Will refinance your home for food...
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The dropper loop knot is a weak, terrible knot.
The spider hitch and the surgeons knot, in that order, are far superior to form a loop for dropper loop fishing.
If you are going to learn and perfect a knot, I suggest it be one that will not break at 65% of the lines breaking strength especially on fish like yellowtail and white seabass, JMO...
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May-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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#9 | | Swivel Tail Ale
Name: Todd Vessel: Boston Whaler 19' LIZARDFISH Location: Point Loma Job:USD School of Law Student Bio: I eat Bonito, Sardines, Mackerel and Barracuda.
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Jack, retire that old crappy knot
surgeon's loop or spider hitch
way, way easier to tie these properly and reliably.
Todd.
Go to animatedknots.com
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May-18-2008, 07:16 PM
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#10 | | Barbie gets a fur coat
Name: Arnie Age: 50 Vessel: 38 Mediterranean, 20 ProKat Location: Ramona, Ca Job:Dirt pimp
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May-18-2008, 07:47 PM
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#11 | | Registered User
Name: b.thomas Vessel: dun sunk!(in the bath tub) Location: ca. (southern part) Job:living off my wife (retired)
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The spider hitch or Roy Rose knot (surgeon's loop with 5-6 turns) are both better knots and faster/easier to tie..  | |
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May-18-2008, 09:08 PM
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#12 | | Captain
Name: Mike Age: 41 Vessel: 24' Want-a-be Location: Southern Clownafornia Job:Something Fishy and wet Bio: I may not have a fish killing machine, but I fish my boat hard.
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Originally Posted by Rubberhook2 The dropper loop knot is a weak, terrible knot.
The spider hitch and the surgeons knot, in that order, are far superior to form a loop for dropper loop fishing.
If you are going to learn and perfect a knot, I suggest it be one that will not break at 65% of the lines breaking strength especially on fish like yellowtail and white seabass, JMO... | Ditto that..i hate the dropper...very weak knott. lost a few nice fish because fo the dropper knot. How to video.. YouTube - Surgeons Loop | How To Tie The Surgeon's Loop | Fishing Knots Fishing knots | |
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