How To Revive And Relesase Threshers?

[Pescador Paul]

Hey Fred,

With so many longtails currently being caught, I am sure that many anglers would benefit from a brief posting by you about how to revive and release these great fish (including tail hooked fish).

Thanks,

Pescador Paul

[Blackfish]

your going to have to buy his books.

[goldminer]

mouth to mouth Resuscitation, or I hear they like to have there belly's rubbed.

[Pescador Paul]

Originally Posted by Blackfish

your going to have to buy his books.

I actually ownThe Thresher Shark Book, The Shark Chummer's Bible, and The Art Of Catching Broadbill Swordfish.

Pescador Paul

[inSTANt bendo]

A large J hook with the barb removed fastened securely to a few feet of thicker diameter wooden dowel. Stick the hook just into the skin near the base of the dorsal or pectoral fin, head of shark pointed toward the bow, bump the boat in and out of gear to slowly move the fish along......2-3 knots per hour. As soon as you can start to feel the pump of the sharks tail, slip the hook out at let it go. Even though they may seem totally wasted and exhausted, this will often times revive a shark that most would have harvested claiming "it wasn't going to make it anyway".

[Fred Archer]

Thanks, Paul.

A good way, Bendo. I actually prefer some 20# mono (it's amazing what it will hold) and a small hook with the barb removed. Stick it in the shark's nose and lead her along slowly until she either pops the line herself, or starts looking good and you pop it for her. I attach the release leaders to a strong, wooden handle, so it's easy to pop the leader without cutting yourself. Just be careful of pulled or straightened hooks coming back at you; always wear eye protection!

Blackfish "your (you're) going to have to buy his books." You make that sound like some kind of crime. Do you ever read books? Just wondering how you have learned anything.

And, howboutdat, you didn't have to buy any of my books to get that tip! It was for free, like a lot of stuff that I do here. And that is information that I have worked my ass off to learn, that many educated people DO pay for and read, benefit from and enjoy.

Now that you have your answer, you can go back to your comic books.

Of course, if you meant that someone who was interested in that particular answer and many, many more should buy one of my books, I apologize in advance. How is Speed Racer doing nowadays?

[el capo]

Save your breath Paul,we need to teach people to have the desire to release,then we can worry about the how.Look at the jackass that was bragging about killing 3 in a day for example.Some people around here dont have the confidence to let one go,they think they will never get another shot like this.I am no treehugger and have killed very very many large fish in the last 30 years,thats how I know what the right thing is.Try telling that to the average rookie shark fisherman,that is what the majority of these guys that wont release are.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Fred Archer

Thanks, Paul.

A good way, Bendo. I actually prefer some 20# mono (it's amazing what it will hold) and a small hook with the barb removed. Stick it in the shark's nose and lead her along slowly until she either pops the line herself, or starts looking good and you pop it for her. I attach the release leaders to a strong, wooden handle, so it's easy to pop the leader without cutting yourself. Just be careful of pulled or straightened hooks coming back at you; always wear eye protection!

Blackfish "your (you're) going to have to buy his books." You make that sound like some kind of crime. Do you ever read books? Just wondering how you have learned anything.

And, howboutdat, you didn't have to buy any of my books to get that tip! It was for free, like a lot of stuff that I do here. And that is information that I have worked my ass off to learn, that many educated people DO pay for and read, benefit from and enjoy.

Now that you have your answer, you can go back to your comic books.

Of course, if you meant that someone who was interested in that particular answer and many, many more should buy one of my books, I apologize in advance. How is Speed Racer doing nowadays?

I was wondering why my posts get deleted,


its not his fault he can't read!

[capnjackv]

Originally Posted by el capo

Save your breath Paul,we need to teach people to have the desire to release,then we can worry about the how.Look at the jackass that was bragging about killing 3 in a day for example.Some people around here dont have the confidence to let one go,they think they will never get another shot like this.I am no treehugger and have killed very very many large fish in the last 30 years,thats how I know what the right thing is.Try telling that to the average rookie shark fisherman,that is what the majority of these guys that wont release are.

Hey El Capo,

You are right, any one who keeps 3 threshers a day is an asshole, hell keeping 3 a year is too many. That being said, telling "rookies" that they should release large sharks, because you have killed many, many of them over the last 30 years is kind of like your dad tell you never to smoke while he fires up that Camel non-filter. It just aint gonna work.

I am not trying to slam you, I too have killed quite a few sharks, large and small. There is, unfortunatley, a certain satisfaction one gets in boating and bring a large fish to the scales. I have felt it, I am sure you have too. It is just something to keep in mind when trying to convince the "rookies".

For the record I have kept one thresher for a charter group this year and released 8. The thing is only 2 of those released need to be revived, the others were trying to slap the crap out of me while pulling the hooks out.

[1bigfisch]

Interesting idea with the hook in the nose deal. I just loop a dockline under there belly and behind their pectorial fins and give them a little tow. As soon as they start kicking, I just release one end of the rope and off they go.

Tried it with a mako once, and the little sob bit down on the rope and wouldn't let go. Had to cut my line after trying everything I could to make him let go. Little fucker was like a pit bull, so IF I try to revive a large mako, don't think I will be using the rope trick.

[el capo]

Originally Posted by capnjackv

Hey El Capo,

You are right, any one who keeps 3 threshers a day is an asshole, hell keeping 3 a year is too many. That being said, telling "rookies" that they should release large sharks, because you have killed many, many of them over the last 30 years is kind of like your dad tell you never to smoke while he fires up that Camel non-filter. It just aint gonna work.

I am not trying to slam you, I too have killed quite a few sharks, large and small. There is, unfortunatley, a certain satisfaction one gets in boating and bring a large fish to the scales. I have felt it, I am sure you have too. It is just something to keep in mind when trying to convince the "rookies".

For the record I have kept one thresher for a charter group this year and released 8. The thing is only 2 of those released need to be revived, the others were trying to slap the crap out of me while pulling the hooks out.

What I meant was about 10 years ago I realized what the fuck was going on and started releasing more fish than most guys have seen.I was not trying to imply that everyone should release because I kill everything,simply that I learned through experience that releasing more often than not is important.

If I took something you said personally you would know.I understand the adrenalin involved w/ taking a large fish to the scale,I have weighed in the 2 heaviest fish ever at the Dana Point scale.And taken the first marlin of the year several times and not released it.But that was in the 90's and I just did not know any better.Now I do and I am just trying to make a few people understand.If you are not with me then so be it.

Congrats on your season though,it sounds very successful,el capo

[capnjackv]

Originally Posted by el capo

What I meant was about 10 years ago I realized what the fuck was going on and started releasing more fish than most guys have seen.I was not trying to imply that everyone should release because I kill everything,simply that I learned through experience that releasing more often than not is important.

If I took something you said personally you would know.I understand the adrenalin involved w/ taking a large fish to the scale,I have weighed in the 2 heaviest fish ever at the Dana Point scale.And taken the first marlin of the year several times and not released it.But that was in the 90's and I just did not know any better.Now I do and I am just trying to make a few people understand.If you are not with me then so be it.

Congrats on your season though,it sounds very successful,el capo

Obviously I am with you on the catch and release or would not have released 8 of 9 threshers. If you dont get what I am saying maybe I can illustrate with a quick story.

When I was 12 I caught my first shark, a blue about 130lbs. For a kid that was a big fish on my dads boat and I was proud of it. After I weighed it (this was in Santa Cruz) a twenty something scum bag deckhand off of the local cattle boat, walks up and starts yelling at me for killing the thing. He doesnt calmly explain why I should have released it, he starts ridiculing me. Its been 31 years and I have still not forgotten that fucking piece of shit. I probably killed 100 blue sharks just because of that asshole. Now his heart may have been in the right place but his message went unheeded because of the delivery.

Anyway didnt mean to get all sentimental on you just trying to illustrate there is a right way and a wrong way to do everything.