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Old Apr-01-2005, 08:03 AM   #37
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Old Apr-01-2005, 09:13 PM   #38
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sucked the oil out today. There was a bit of water in there. Guessing about 4-5 oz...not good! Does this mean my pistons or rings are shot? or anything else?

still adding a squirt of ATF to the cylinders everyday and rotating engine by hand for 5 or so minutes.

Intake manifold has a lot of rust in it. I will pull it tomorrow. Was hopeing not to -but Iit has to be done. I don't ant that crap getting on the valves and all

When i inspect what do i look for besides rust? Can I clean rust off intake with gas or wd-40 right. I thought it was aluminum...but not if there's rust on it it's not

this is all good...if things don't work out for this engine I get a rebuild and start back at 0 hrs. I'd still like to see this engine run for another 1000 or so though!!!
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Old Apr-02-2005, 02:22 AM   #39
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Sounds like you've been getting some moisture entering thru the intake....rainwater?? This could also be the source of the 4-5oz. of water in the crank. As long as you're pulling the intake take it down to a bead blaster and have it cleaned, and anything else that looks skuzzy. When you get it back don't let it sit around, paint the outside while the surface is still clean. Put it back on. Take a compression check to determine if the rings are bad. Usually if the motor turns over they are still OK. Generally the reason a motor won't turn over is a few of the rings have rusted to the piston walls. My dos ¢entavos. JJ
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Old Apr-02-2005, 09:14 AM   #40
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would i be able to manually turn over if that was the case?
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Old Apr-02-2005, 04:34 PM   #41
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nope........ it would be locked up tighter than a frog's ass
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Old Apr-02-2005, 06:14 PM   #42
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Pulled intake manifold. Manifold was on tight. Took me a while to get it off after i pulled all the bolts. I doubt water got in from there but...what the hell do i know. I can only take my best educated guess. All the ports which carry gas fumes down into the engine block are pretty well rusted. The camshaft and (rocker arms I think they are) that lead to the valves look ok. There was a bit of rusty gooky- shit in this area on one of the port side wall. I inspected the gasket to valve cover which is visible and it looked ok. Not sure where the crap came from.

Bad news now- i tried to decipher which ports were for water. Hard to tell when the whole damned engine is rusted. All i had to do was examine the ports on the intake cover to figure out where the gas fumes go! I can see the inside those ports into the engine block. I'm looking at some rods-push rods i assume. They have rust and gunk on them! I assume they connect to the pistons and that they should be clean...!!

The port side has more rust buildup than the starboard because the boat tilts that way. That's where the water traveled and sat

I remember seeing alot of water on the manifold one morning after it rained. Then i got a scary thought that water went right in through the carb. Maybe at the time i was working on it and left the spark arrestor off. Don't think i'd do that...I dispelled that bit of negative thinking. I kept a pretty close watch on the boat after every rain. Inspected the carb anyway. Definitely some water in the carb bowl. A little bit. maybe 10% water in the bowl

Pulled fuel filter ...it's all fuel no water.

I want to figure out what caused this. Can i infer that it's like everyone told me...water in the head from the exhaust manifolds and condensation caused the intake manifold to form rust too.

At this point do i even need to think about starting the engine when i get my new manifolds or should i just order myself a rebuild?? I can crank it w/ a 9/16" socket and a ratchet no problem....
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Old Apr-02-2005, 07:52 PM   #43
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Old Apr-02-2005, 08:21 PM   #44
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carb. Maybe at the time i was working on it and left the spark arrestor off.


claims another victim......so long as you didn't bend something ....give it a try.
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Old Apr-06-2005, 11:22 PM   #45
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tonights question ......

I almost got everything back together. Ha dto beat some thunder to get everything covered back up tonight so no compression check or fireup yet. Busted a bolt inside the intake manifold as i torqued doen the water circ pump so I'll need to drill and tap that. Not too worried about that.

to the question...last sunday i examined carb. there was some white stuff in there and the throttle did not work as freely as it should have. Took it apart and rebuilt it. There was still some white stuff in the bowl. Looks like salt or calcium deposit...

Carb has been sitting for 2 days in my basement. i go grab it to put it on and there's that white powdery stuff again. Any ideas what the heck that is??
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Old Apr-07-2005, 05:35 AM   #46
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Oxidation, don't worry about it. Is the bolt one for the carb? Again, don't worry about it. So long as the gasket seals and it's not sucking air it's ok. You plannin to take this motor offshore?
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Old Apr-07-2005, 07:03 AM   #47
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Old Apr-07-2005, 06:17 PM   #48
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yep...!!


about 65 miles- No BS! I'll run it short about 12-18 times before i do that though.
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