Boating Discussion Thread, Can i tow a Striper 2301 o/b with a truck towing capacity of 5,000lbs? in Boats; 2301 Striper is close to 5,300. lbs with trailer the trailer have breakes but you still need a biger truck...  | |
Oct-27-2009, 12:22 PM
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#25 | | Registered User
Name: Alex Vessel: 2101 Seaswirl Location: San Marcos Job:Bartender at Dobsons
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2301 Striper is close to 5,300. lbs with trailer the trailer have breakes but you still need a biger truck
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Oct-27-2009, 01:06 PM
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#26 | | Captain
Name: Travis Age: 28 Vessel: 1981 20' Skippy Open "Front Page" Location: Long Beach Job:Skipjack Mafia
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hell no you can tow that. you are going to burn up that truck not to mention I hope you dont have to stop any time soon
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Oct-27-2009, 06:36 PM
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#27 | | Registered User
Name: Patrick Age: 26 Vessel: 26' Seaswirl "Reel Obsession" Location: West hills, CA Job:Sales
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I guess it looks like a no go on that. Maybe look at the 2101 Striper if you want to keep your truck.
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Oct-27-2009, 07:49 PM
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#28 | | CAPTAIN
Name: Erol Age: 41 Vessel: 2006 Parker 2120 Location: So Cal Job:Got one
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I tow my 2120 parker with a V6 nissan but I only tow the boat 1 mile to the harbor on surface streets. Get a bigger truck you will need one to stop.
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Oct-27-2009, 08:31 PM
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#29 | | Registered User
Name: jacob Age: 36 Vessel: still working hard for my own Location: san marcos Job:tig welder, fishing boat tower fabricator
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listen to my tiny axle go pop
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Oct-27-2009, 10:36 PM
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#30 | | Registered User
Name: mike Age: 47 Vessel: 22 Defiance Location: Lomita, CA Job:Aerospace
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It'll tow it and if you don't go over the weight rated on the side of the tire it's 100% legal. Manufacturers gross vehicle weight rating are just suggestions from the manufacture and carry no weight in law. It's all about the tires. Thats what the highway patrol can write you for and can get you in liability trouble. If you were to tow it on a regular basis up big grades or over long distances the frame will hold, the rear end will hold, the brakes will hold, the engine will hold, the tranny will cook. If you do tow heavy drive it like you're towing heavy. I would buy the boat you want or you'll end up buying it anyhow after you spent money on the wrong boat. Use the money you would have lost buying the wrong boat on a new tow vehicle in the future. Big beater gasoline trucks are a bargain right now. That said it'll tow it and even safely if you're not a squid but the auto tranny in that thing will take a beating.
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Oct-27-2009, 10:51 PM
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#31 | | Captain
Name: Bryan Vessel: Striper 2101DC "Its A Keeper" Location: CA Job:Sales Manager
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Originally Posted by mikeyairtime It'll tow it and if you don't go over the weight rated on the side of the tire it's 100% legal. Manufacturers gross vehicle weight rating are just suggestions from the manufacture and carry no weight in law. It's all about the tires. Thats what the highway patrol can write you for and can get you in liability trouble. If you were to tow it on a regular basis up big grades or over long distances the frame will hold, the rear end will hold, the brakes will hold, the engine will hold, the tranny will cook. If you do tow heavy drive it like you're towing heavy. I would buy the boat you want or you'll end up buying it anyhow after you spent money on the wrong boat. Use the money you would have lost buying the wrong boat on a new tow vehicle in the future. Big beater gasoline trucks are a bargain right now. That said it'll tow it and even safely if you're not a squid but the auto tranny in that thing will take a beating. | Let me get your advice straight...Go ahead and buy the boat, Tow it with a vehicle that will most likely blow the tranny...at about a $2500-$3000 repair?
To hell with the safety of others on the road?
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Oct-27-2009, 11:01 PM
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#32 | | Captain
Name: Harry S. Stamper Vessel: Broken Location: Outside the Orange Curtain... Job:Asteroid Killer
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Do it all day, everyday. Right up until the warranty expires. Then, trade for a 3/4 ton diesel.
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Oct-27-2009, 11:03 PM
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#33 | | Ex sport Capt
Name: Troy Age: 45 Vessel: 3 Location: West Side,Washington Job:Trying to be a thorn in the ass of anyone considering a closure
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Originally Posted by mikeyairtime It'll tow it and if you don't go over the weight rated on the side of the tire it's 100% legal. Manufacturers gross vehicle weight rating are just suggestions from the manufacture and carry no weight in law. It's all about the tires. Thats what the highway patrol can write you for and can get you in liability trouble. |
I hate to call bullshit but................. BULLSHIT.
The tire rating is part of it. If you an axle set up rated for 5000lbs and the tire are rated for 3500lbs per single tire are you saying that you can weigh 7000lbs legally BULLSHIT If your axle is rated for 5000lbs and tires are rated for 2000lbs per single tire you can only have 4000lbs on that axle. The axles, suspension and brakes all have a weight rating. The CHP will be more then happy to explain all of this to you. Simply stop at any truck weigh station and walk in and ask them about the tire theory. They will explain to you very clearly that the manufacture weight rating are not suggestions and that you as a private citizen in a non commercial vehicle can be sited for over weight vehicle.
But don't take my word for it talk to the CHP and find out where the bear shits.
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Oct-27-2009, 11:12 PM
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#34 | | Registered User
Name: Shawn Vessel: none yet Location: Granada Hills, CA Job:Land Surveyor
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Originally Posted by bigeye2k I tow my 2120 parker with a V6 nissan but I only tow the boat 1 mile to the harbor on surface streets. Get a bigger truck you will need one to stop. | I wonder if the 2120 Parker is heavier than the 2101 WA Striper? Thanks for the info!
Looks like a boat is out of question for me for a while. Not planning on buying a new truck or even replacing mine. Its my daily driver and i for sure dont want to drive a full size truck everyday.
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Oct-28-2009, 09:25 AM
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#35 | | "It's all Good!"
Name: Carl Vessel: 26' Sea Ray, "yes dear..." Location: Gilbert, AZ Job:Village Smart Ass
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Originally Posted by mikeyairtime It'll tow it and if you don't go over the weight rated on the side of the tire it's 100% legal. Manufacturers gross vehicle weight rating are just suggestions from the manufacture and carry no weight in law. It's all about the tires. Thats what the highway patrol can write you for and can get you in liability trouble. If you were to tow it on a regular basis up big grades or over long distances the frame will hold, the rear end will hold, the brakes will hold, the engine will hold, the tranny will cook. If you do tow heavy drive it like you're towing heavy. I would buy the boat you want or you'll end up buying it anyhow after you spent money on the wrong boat. Use the money you would have lost buying the wrong boat on a new tow vehicle in the future. Big beater gasoline trucks are a bargain right now. That said it'll tow it and even safely if you're not a squid but the auto tranny in that thing will take a beating. | Total BS. I have been involved in Brake lawsuits for GM when I worked for them. They take their GVWR ratings extremely seriously. There are MVSS, (Motor Vehicle Safety Standards ), for damn near everything that happpens for vehicles. Just because most are not aware of the rigorous testing and Safety standards, doesn't mean they don't exist.
If NISSAN states that their vehicle can tow 5000, don't load it with 10,000 just because you uprated the tires.
Sheeeesh...
DG
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Oct-28-2009, 10:43 AM
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#36 | | Registered User
Name: mike Age: 47 Vessel: 22 Defiance Location: Lomita, CA Job:Aerospace
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" Quote:
The tire rating is part of it. If you an axle set up rated for 5000lbs and the tire are rated for 3500lbs per single tire are you saying that you can weigh 7000lbs legally BULLSHIT If your axle is rated for 5000lbs and tires are rated for 2000lbs per single tire you can only have 4000lbs on that axle. The axles, suspension and brakes all have a weight rating. The CHP will be more then happy to explain all of this to you. Simply stop at any truck weigh station and walk in and ask them about the tire theory. They will explain to you very clearly that the manufacture weight rating are not suggestions and that you as a private citizen in a non commercial vehicle can be sited for over weight vehicle.
But don't take my word for it talk to the CHP and find out where the bear shits. |
On a declared weight commercial vehicle GCVW carries weight. On a pickup no dice in California. Ask a highway patrolman what the axle rating is on a Nissan, then ask him what the GCVW is. No one knows. That's why they print it on the side of declared weight vehicles and on the registration. Show me one case of someone who has been busted in California for towing a 6000# boat with a 5000# rated pickup truck. It's never happened. This has been hashed and rehashed on rv.net over and over and over. Every (srw) truck out there on load range E tires with a cab over camper is over it's GVWR. Ever hear of one case of prosecution.He's not towing a 27 Farallon. The trailer has brakes and the tounge will weigh about 500#, that's two dirt bikes. The axle won't fail. Put some air bags under it, blow up the tires so it doesn't look overloaded and the CHP's won't give it a second look....but the tranny will cook on a long haul or a long grade. Drive it carefully and you'll be safer than a guy tailgating and weaving through traffic in a crew cab diesel dually towing the same boat.
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