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Old Aug-15-2009, 09:49 AM   #1
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Thought this was a good read.


If you are considering a change or upgrade from your stock propeller, the following information should be helpful.
Identifying your propeller
The size of a prop is described using two sets of numbers. (e.g. 14 X 19) The first number designates the diameter, and the second number designates the propeller pitch.
Propeller Terminology

Diameter

Diameter is the width of the circle described by the rotating blades.

Pitch

Pitch is the theoretical distance a prop moves forward in one revolution. The following propeller has a pitch that will theoretically result in 24” of forward travel in one revolution. However, in the real world, the propeller experiences “slippage” so that its actual travel per revolution is less than the stated pitch.

Prop pitch is frequently misunderstood. Many people mistakenly believe that switching to a larger pitch prop will make the boat go faster. If a prop with too large a pitch is used, the motor simply doesn't have enough horsepower to turn the prop adequately and the RPM level drops. Not only does the boat go slower, but the motor can load up and the plugs become fouled. If a prop with too low a pitch is used the prop can exceed the manufacturers recommended RPM level and damage the engine.

The ideal situation is to select a prop with a pitch that allows the motor to reach the maximum RPM suggested by the engine manufacturer without going over. If the prop selected doesn't reach the recommended RPM level, the boat will sacrifice speed and lift.

Here's a simple rule of thumb to follow when experimenting with prop pitch. Remember that at wide-open RPM increasing the prop pitch reduces RPM levels by roughly 200 rpm's per inch of pitch. In other words, when switching from a 23- to a 25-pitch prop, the maximum RPM level will drop approximately 400 rpm's. The reverse is true when going down in pitch size.

Propeller Cup

Many of today's propellers incorporate a cup at the trailing edge of the propeller blade. This curved lip on the propeller allows it to get a better bite on the water. This results in reduced ventilation, slipping, and allows for a better hole shot in many cases. A cupped propeller also works very well where the motor can be trimmed so that the propeller is near the surface of the water. The cup will typically result in higher top end speed on one of these applications.
Switching from an un-cupped to a cupped propeller will reduce your RPM. The actual amount of RPM decrease is dependent on where, how much, and the quality of the cupping. Typically, a cupped propeller of the same pitch and diameter will reduce your RPM by approximately 200.

Ventilation

Air from the water surface or exhaust gases from the exhaust outlet being drawn into the prop blades causes ventilation. When this situation occurs, boat speed is lost and engine RPM climbs rapidly. This occurs most often with high transom mounting, over-trimming the engine, or sharp turns.

Cavitation

Cavitation (often confused with ventilation), is a phenomena of water vaporizing or "boiling" due to the extreme reduction of pressure on the back of the propeller blade. Many propellers partially cavitate during normal operation, but excessive cavitation can result in metal erosion or "cavitation burn" to the prop's blade surface. There are numerous causes of cavitation such as incorrect matching of prop style to application, incorrect pitch, damage to the blade edges, etc.


Rake

Rake is the measurement of the angle of the tilt of the blade's tip toward or away from the gearcase. The angle is measured on a line extending from the center of the hub through the center of one blade.

Selecting the right propeller

The best propeller size for your boat and engine combination is based on the recommended operating range at wide open throttle (w.o.t.) for your engine, which you will find in your engine operator's manual.

The goal in prop selection is to determine what propeller style and size will maximize performance for your boat, while allowing your engine to operate in the recommended RPM range. The correct propeller will prevent the engine from over-revving, yet allow it to reach the minimum RPM where maximum horsepower is produced.

Run the boat/motor at w.o.t. under normal operating load to determine the maximum RPM you are able to obtain. Adjust the motor trim angle for the optimum performance. If during this test, you begin to exceed the maximum rated RPM of the engine, reduce throttle setting to a position where maximum RPM is not exceeded.

If your test results in your being able to over-rev the engine, you need to increase the pitch of the propeller. Increasing the pitch increment by 1" will result in approximately a 200 RPM drop. If your testing shows, however, that you are only able to obtain a RPM somewhat lower than the maximum rating given by your engine manufacturer, you would need to decrease pitch. Decreasing pitch would increase your RPM. Once your wide open throttle RPM falls within the recommended range of the engine manufacturer, you have a propeller that is suited correctly for your boat with respect to RPM.

If you use your boat for fishing, cruising and skiing, one prop probably won't do all three things equally well. It is best in circumstances like this to have two propellers; One to accommodate one set of circumstances and the other to perform best under the different load. It is imperative, however, that the wide open throttle RPM fall within the range specified by your engine manufacturer.



Aluminum or Stainless?

Aluminum props are the ideal choice for small- to medium-sized boats and motors. Available up to 23 pitch, aluminum props are also the logical choice for use in areas where prop damage comes with the territory. The average aluminum prop costs about $150 compared to $400-$500 for stainless propellers.

Stainless steel props are more expensive, but they offer several advantages. They deliver more performance and are available in larger pitch sizes. One reason stainless props provide more performance than similar pitch aluminum models is because the steel blades are rigid and they don't flex under power. The blades on an aluminum prop actually bend when the prop is in use, reducing the overall size of the prop by approximately one pitch size. Stainless props also provide increased bow lift, especially on heavy boats. The more bow lift a prop provides, the faster and smoother the boat will ride at high speed and in rough water.

Three-Blade, Four-Blade, or Five-Blade?

Propellers are available in three-blade, four-blade and five-blade models. Multiple blade props came on the scene in response to high horsepower outboards that are typically mounted higher on the transom than smaller motors. Because the prop runs closer to the surface, the extra blades help to provide bite and stability at high speed

The advantages of props with extra blades are they provide quicker take-offs, and allow the boat to be kept on plane with fewer engine rpm's. However, they are slower at top-end speeds. A quality three-blade prop is normally two or three miles per hour faster at top end than the same pitch prop featuring multiple blades.
Maintenance

Check your propeller often for nicks, rolled tips, or bent blades. Any distortion from normal will cause a loss in performance and can create vibrations harmful to the engine. A propeller with worn blades will allow the engine to accelerate beyond the recommended operating range which can result in damage to the engine.

Keep the bottom of the boat clean. A fouled bottom, an accumulation of marine growth, moss and barnacles in sea water, and the accumulation of dirt, slime, lime, and other matter in fresh water, is the major cause of poor boat performance. Cleaning the boat's bottom frequently during your boating season will greatly improve boat performance.
Things to Remember

1. Engine RPM at W.O.T. must be within the recommended operating range with the rated horsepower RPM as the target number (see specification in your engine operator's manual).

2. Increasing or decreasing prop pitch directly affects engine load throughout its RPM range.

3. Trim angle affects propeller performance.

4. Atmospheric pressure, elevation, temperature, and humidity all affect engine performance, which directly affects propeller performance.

5. Salt water is more buoyant than fresh water; this may cause some hulls to run faster than identical freshwater setups.

6. Water conditions can play a big part in boat performance and propeller efficiency.

7. The boat's load and position of the load can significantly affect performance
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Old Aug-15-2009, 10:06 AM   #2
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Great info Mike.

Here is a link for Duo Prop info too.


http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/2D..._2005_2006.pdf
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What happens when you change the diaminter of the prop?????

All good info, Thanks for the post
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What happens when you change the diaminter of the prop?????

All good info, Thanks for the post

it's like gearing in a car or truck. the bigger the diameter the less rpm's, {this can cause your engine to lugg, effecting engine life and fuel economy}, the smaller diameter will give you higher revs better torque, economy, life and performance. pitch also plays a big part in the props perf. max rpm on my merc is 5500. at wot i'm getting a max of 5300 rpm. i'm happy with my prop sizing.
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So I guess your already neeing to re-prop the duck boat's new motor? Or just gettin ready to stock up on em????
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I am getting 5000rpm WOT on my boat. running 13.75 X 17 stainless steel prop. Yamaha manual call out for 4500-5500rpm WOT. Is my prop correct for the motor? What if I drop down to 13.75 X 15 pitch. How would the performing will be effect?
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I am getting 5000rpm WOT on my boat. running 13.75 X 17 stainless steel prop. Yamaha manual call out for 4500-5500rpm WOT. Is my prop correct for the motor? What if I drop down to 13.75 X 15 pitch. How would the performing will be effect?

Sounds like your already very close to correct with the prop you have. Why do you want to decrease pitch?

If you do drop 2 inches of pitch using the same prop style your RPMS will go up (approximately 400-500) @ WOT and you will get a better hole shot. Downside is that you will loose top end speed. It depends on the specifics to your setup but decreasing pitch MAY decrease efficency @ cruise speed.

Best way to find out is to test it with a different prop.

A comment on Mattanza's statement:

"it's like gearing in a car or truck. the bigger the diameter the less rpm's, {this can cause your engine to lugg, effecting engine life and fuel economy}, the smaller diameter will give you higher revs better torque, economy, life and performance. pitch also plays a big part in the props perf. max rpm on my merc is 5500. at wot i'm getting a max of 5300 rpm. i'm happy with my prop sizing."

A somewhat vague statement that may or not be true. A smaller diameter of the same pitch will increase RPM but as for better "economy, life and performance" that depends entirely on the specifics of the current setup. If your able to turn the manufactures recommended RPM @ WOT already it is very possible that economy and performance will suffer and that you will see no increase in the life of the engine. Certainly over propping so that you can't make the recommended WOT RPM will not add life to the engine and likely hurt it (in almost all cases) decreasing diameter or pitch won't help much other than hole shot assuming your within the recommended RPM range @ WOT.
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