Avet Pro Ex 30W 2 sp Questions

Keta · Mar-14-2006, 11:39 AM

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a shitty reel

I own several Penn, Shimano and Avet reels (9 Avets from the SX up to the SDS) and I have never seen any of the BS you are saying about Avets. I'd suggest taking your crap to a place where people that haven't got a clue will possably believe it.

cisurfer · Mar-14-2006, 12:06 PM

dont recall saying every avet ever made has problems. The anonymous boating store i work has people coming in stoked on their avet, but far more come in with problems.
Your not gonna start fuckin crying are you? This is a place for people to share opinions and experiences. If you havent had any problems then im stoked for you. But if heard and seen far too many for me to spend money on these reels!!!
I noticed you didnt say anything about Penn being around forever and Avet bein a new company or a reel necessitating 100# of drag.
Ive got shimanos too, i love my tiagra 20. But i love my 16vsx, 30sw, 12LT, 50T more!
I guess im someone with no life posting false reports about my friends trouble with his avets or my local tackle shop problems with them

Dont get all butt hurt like a little girl

cisurfer · Mar-14-2006, 12:15 PM

Not only that, but the owner of my local shop is good friends with the captain of the excel and he told him not even to send customers down there with avets anymore! hows that!

**Smudge** · Mar-14-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cisurfer

This is a place for people to share opinions and experiences. If you havent had any problems then im stoked for you. But if heard and seen far too many for me to spend money on these reels!!!
I noticed you didnt say anything about Penn being around forever and Avet bein a new company or a reel necessitating 100# of drag.
Ive got shimanos too, i love my tiagra 20. But i love my 16vsx, 30sw, 12LT, 50T more!
I guess im someone with no life posting false reports about my friends trouble with his avets or my local tackle shop problems with them

Dont get all butt hurt like a little girl

So how many Avets do you own?? What's your personal experience with the Avets you own??

Dude, don't come in calling a reel shitty and tell someone not to buy it based on second hand experiences and bull shit from an unnamed tackle shop. If they really refuse to carry them on their shelves then why not say who they are. And if they really refuse to carry these reels then they are going against the grain of SoCal sportfishing today. If that's their bag then good on them. It's a free country.

I find it hard to believe that any self respecting tackleshop in Southern California refuses to carry these products, it's possible, seen much stranger shit. I'm not saying that they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they're pretty damn tough.

If they're really having as many problems as you say they are then I'm sure the guys at Avet who read this board would like to know about it....

And about Penn being around forever.. Where are they made now????

Keta · Mar-14-2006, 12:25 PM

No "crying"
just point out yur lyin.

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Dont get all butt hurt like a little girl

I see you have to use insults like most needle dick anuses do when their noses get rubbed in their own BS. I'm not "butt hurt".

I said that I own several makes of reels and like them all, I just haven't seen the alleged problems you are posting. On one of my last year's longrange trips most of the cows (the boat brought in 36 cows) were caught on Avet SDS reels with a ZERO% failure rate. On the same trip I saw a 300 lb black seabass brought to the boat with a EXW4/2 and I landed a wahoo over 80lbs on a EX4/0. My SDS has landed 5 cows and I haven't got a clue how many Yellow Fin Tuna over 150 and is still working good.
There were only 2 reel failures on this trip, one due to overloading a TLD 50 (130lb) and the other a new high end reel that lost it's drag on the first large Yellow Fin Tuna. I will not mention the manufacture because sometimes things happen and they do build a quality product.

longranger · Mar-14-2006, 01:04 PM

No secret that this site tends to be very pro-Avet but come on!!! any general statement that Avet reels are anything but a great addition to the marketplace is far fetched. A huge number of long range fishermen are gradually switching from other brands to Avet specificly because they are tough as Nails and cast better than any other line of lever drag reels out of the box.

Ask enough skippers and yeah based upon a couple of bad experiences you will find negative feelings regarding all of the major reel brands. We are all entitled to our opinions.

My cow gear for a trip this past December included Accurate, Penn and Shimano but no Avets. The gear functioned well and Got a couple of cows but I couldn't help but notice that the guys with the Avet gear were casting better and getting the fish to gaff faster than any other group. I got the opportunity to try the 30 narrow and 50 SDS. The function was flawless and the casting was spectacular.

I asked every member of the EXCELL!!!

crew what they thought of the Avet product and every one of them gave thier highest reccomendation to "upgrade" to Avet. I wasn't even thinking of upgrading or unhappy with my stuff. Just food for thought.

Mike B

cisurfer · Mar-14-2006, 01:12 PM

You are butt hurt, dont get all defense because someone has a different opinioin than you do! Like i said, if you havent had any problems then im stoked for you!
And to you Matt, if i hear about a reel having problems im not gonna go buy a whole lineup of them. When Ford Explorers had problems with those tires or whatever several years ago, would you put those tires on your car so you could find out for yourself? Some of my friends love their avets and some dont! Here is your anonymous tackle shop

I was interested in trying the ex4/0, despite concerns that i had about hearing problems from my friend's reels because i know that every product isnt perfect and some problems could be circumstantial. So when i went into "ERIC'S TACKLE" in ventura, california, and asked to see one, he told me that they wont carry them anymore because of too many problems and went on to explain them to me. I was dumbfounded to hear about this many problems for a reel that everyone and their mother in socal seems to love so much. He went on to explain to me that his good friend is the captian of the excel and has had too many problems with them, and as a result asked him not to send any more customers down with those reels. This is coming from a shop, and shop owner with more experience than either of the two of you put together, Eric has a multitude of experience in marlin tournaments for over 20years and on long range trips.
Just sharing my experience from fishing WITH friends with avet and the outcome of an attempt to buy one myself. I know where Penn reels are made and thats too bad, but thats not the topic of this post nor does that effect the quality of the reel it effects to what country you are sending your money. This post was about the quality of avets.
Personally, if i owned a tackle shop i would sell the shit out of avets because thats whats selling and i dont find it good business to not sell what people want, but again thats not the topic at hand.
And like you said Matt, its a free country to say whatever you want!

cisurfer · Mar-14-2006, 01:16 PM

Mike, i'll give you the credit that it was my bad to make such a generalized statement of shitty reels. Im just blown away that they made a reel with that much drag! These guys gotta be kidding me if they use that much! Just sounds like some bullshit advertising technique, its like owning a car that goes 200MPH, thats great your car can do that but when the hell are you gonna need or even use it. My only point on that. Apologies for the generalization but the rest of my opinion still stands solid!

Keta · Mar-14-2006, 01:25 PM

Still ain't butt hurt, I have a asbestos ass and play with a far tougher crowd than you (FYI, women are harder to deal with than little boys with tough keyboards).
Your response to my post indicated you might have a tiny problem but your last two posts handled it far better.

As far as 100lbs of drag, I'd rather have a reel than can do 100lbs and fish it at 35lbs than have a reel that just barly does 35 and fish it at max. I don't really see the need for 100lbs on a 50 reel and in standup situation. BTW, I fish my SDS at 35lbs but it will do 47lbs.

TunaBully · Mar-14-2006, 04:57 PM

I own a number of penns, avets, and shimanos and all are fine reels. I recently purchased the SDS 50 narrow and I have to say its an exceptional product. I am trying to decide whether or not I should buy another SDS 50 or the 30W, but am unsure what the line capacity is on the 30W. Can someone give an idea how the reel compares in terms of form factor and line capacity in comparison to the penn 30VSW? I am not looking to choose between the two, just trying to get an idea of size and capacity.

Double Z · Mar-14-2006, 07:05 PM

I have yet to have any problems with any of mine and the list of AVETs I own personally grows by the month. My 50's caught 6 cows up to 245lbs. AGAIN, THEY DID THIS WHILE I WAS OVER 1,000 MILES AWAY! I can't believe I did not go on that trip. As for the T-REX putting out 100lbs of drag, you need to research that a little. Some have hit 150lbs of drag with the thing.

Like Lee said, I'd rather have a reel capable of a lot more than I need. The only thing I don't like abput the quad's, including the 30, is how far out the handle gets pushed with the extra internals.

Ryan, I don't know how well you really know the guys at the tackle store you go to but I'm guessing there is another side to the story they fed you. I don't know if you said anything about your relationship with them in your posts. As I was reading, my eyes rolled back in my head because this type of post pops up from time to time and they are all the same. Maybe you hallicunated the whole thing? I know if you are a shaper and have worked for a while you are short a brain cell or 2(hundred million!).

Double Z · Mar-15-2006, 07:25 AM

"I got almost 650 yards of JB Hollow 135# on mine, but I have a Sato winder and the counter is WEAK, so that might be off a bit!

It cranks like a champ. I mean it's not an Avet 50W, but it's got balls.

We checked the drags at Noah's... 42# with free, 47# balls out."

That capacity as massive. I know it's been said a million times but spectra has changed fishing. If it gets any thinner, they'll have to make a quad drag MXJ 2 speed for cows!