IS THE NEW AVET RAPTOR REALLY A KILLER?

[MARKEY220]

now before i start shootin my mouth off,let me first say i own many avet reels from the sx-exw 80 and really like them all.that said,the new avet raptor sx series are bein improved.i can see the benefit of gettin rid of that pesky side load problem,but,do ya really need more drag?i guess my problem with the new reels is after all is said and done, the reel still lacks the leverage or grind that you will find on a larger reel.its fine for stoppin or slowin a fish down but you still have to retreive the line under sometimes extreme pressure,yea,you can shift it in to low,but you don't have the faster retrieve like on larger spooled reels.

[doughnut]

Originally Posted by MARKEY220

now before i start shootin my mouth off,let me first say i own many avet reels from the sx-exw 80 and really like them all.that said,the new avet raptor sx series are bein improved.i can see the benefit of gettin rid of that pesky side load problem,but,do ya really need more drag?i guess my problem with the new reels is after all is said and done, the reel still lacks the leverage or grind that you will find on a larger reel.its fine for stoppin or slowin a fish down but you still have to retreive the line under sometimes extreme pressure,yea,you can shift it in to low,but you don't have the faster retrieve like on larger spooled reels.

I think the idea is to have competition for the smaller accurate reels. (197,270 in the B series) The little SX at 9 lbs was a really nice 20 lb reel. I like the ide of fishing the smallest and lightest (physical wieght) combo that will do the job. With that said, I don't think the designers are trying to make a mini 30 sized reel, but a stout, but smaller 12 and 16 reel alternative (sizes), like ACCURATE.

[MARKEY220]

ken,yea,i guess if ya look at it that way i agree completely.i just got the impression they{avet}and some potential buyers were thinkin this little reel is goin to be the next 150-200lb.tuna killer.imo, they would be outgunned used in this application.

[Old&In The Way]

The SX 6/4 Raptor is tiny, light, and strong, very strong. It's made to catch big fish with a small/light outfit, and have FUN doing it!

[HTA]

The reel was never designed for 150-200 lb fish. but with the proper spectra to mono combo in the right hands I can see it catching fish up to 100 lbs. It will be more competitive with the accurates and its part of the reels eveloutionary path which is being created daily right here on this very websight and others like it. The daily input of information from the very start of Avets reels has passed before our eyes. Lets take a look back..........................

The glued drags........................1 bad salt intrusion photo spread all over the web.

MC...........................Too many damn complaints about the freespool on Avet reels.

Raptor..........................Bitchin and whinning about side loads and not enough drag.

$439.............................for a little piece of perfection..........................Priceless.

Its here and we have reel #2 in Black and have tested for side load at strike, line capacity, inches retreived in low and high with a full spool. 3/4 spool and 1/2 spool. Have had the reel in possesion for over a week and have a few more test to try but at this point I am very impressed with it.

[marlyn]

[QUOTE=MARKEY220;1485026]now before i start shootin my mouth off,let me first say i own many avet reels from the sx-exw 80 and really like them all.that said,the new avet raptor sx series are bein improved.i can see the benefit of gettin rid of that pesky side load problem,but,do ya really need more drag?i guess my problem with the new reels is after all is said and done, the reel still lacks the leverage or grind that you will find on a larger reel.its fine for stoppin or slowin a fish down but you still have to retreive the line under sometimes extreme pressure,yea,you can shift it in to low,but you don't have the faster retrieve like on larger spooled reels.[/QUOTE

I agree with the bigger spool,im getting rid of my mxl/2 and using a jx for 30 lb. now as i like the larger spool better,it kicks ass on the mxl.I tried both on the same day on 20-25 lb yellowfin after jason posted up something about prefering the larger spooled reel,in my opinion the bigger spool killed fish faster and easier.

[MARKEY220]

your right on mark,i've caught some really big stripers with the sx,mxj{single speed}the drag performed great,but when you started cranking down on a fish you felt like you were going to break the handle or strip some gears to gain line.that was greatly improved when using the jx,lx hx reels.one cannot use a 2speed solely in low gear.

[ksauers]

What is the retrieve rate?

[Double Z]

Originally Posted by MARKEY220

your right on mark,i've caught some really big stripers with the sx,mxj{single speed}the drag performed great,but when you started cranking down on a fish you felt like you were going to break the handle or strip some gears to gain line.that was greatly improved when using the jx,lx hx reels.one cannot use a 2speed solely in low gear.

Weird. I've caught fish (Yellow Fin Tuna) around 60lbs on my single speed SX and never felt like it was going to break. More than 11-12lbs at strike would have had me running 30lb leader over the 25lb flouro I was running. To be honest though, for most fish, I leave the reel at strike (7lbs of drag). For most of the local fish, it still crushes them.

I look forward to fishing the Raptor to 30lb on the SX and 40lb on a JX size.

[MARKEY220]

4.6:1 ratio,which,imo,should'nt be too high.anything higher,would make the problem worse.

[TurdRoller]

i don't like avets but that new raptor is siiiick. they have them at Squidco, played with one yesterday

[BOILER]

Originally Posted by HTA

The reel was never designed for 150-200 lb fish. but with the proper spectra to mono combo in the right hands I can see it catching fish up to 100 lbs.

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I agree 100% with this statement. A 20lb reel was never intended to purposely catch 150-200lb fish and Avet themselves will co-sign that. You're asking for trouble trying to catch fish anywhere near that range. I would be surprised to see it catch many fish even at 100lbs because of line capacity not because the reel couldn't handle it, that's still to be seen.