Magic Cast and Live Bait?

[hucklongfin]

Okay, my point is they don't make any difference. The OP makes it seem like he thinks the magnets will put a drag on the line when a chovy is swimming. They don't, nor do they make a difference when casting a light bait.

Here's a link to an article on Charkbait on magging a JX yourself... it alo explains how the magnets work: Magging an Avet

[sdangler]

Originally Posted by hucklongfin

Okay, my point is they don't make any difference. The OP makes it seem like he thinks the magnets will put a drag on the line when a chovy is swimming. They don't, nor do they make a difference when casting a light bait.

Here's a link to an article on Charkbait on magging a JX yourself... it alo explains how the magnets work: Magging an Avet

I respectfully disagree...

With the Avet MC reels it seems (at least to me) that one cannot disengage the magnets from the spool completely whether casting or flylining.

I played with one and that's why I posted about asking Mike about his opinion.

I own plenty of Avets just no MC's. I got a thumb for that.

[jbarto]

Originally Posted by sdangler

I respectfully disagree...

With the Avet MC reels it seems (at least to me) that one cannot disengage the magnets from the spool completely whether casting or flylining.

I played with one and that's why I posted about asking Mike about his opinion.

I own plenty of Avets just no MC's. I got a thumb for that.

What's a thumb? Is it that opposable appendage that will slow down the spool?

[hucklongfin]

The magnet don't touch the spool. The higher the number the closer to the spool they move thereby increasing the slowing effect when the spool moves fast. The magnets work with an aluminum, non-magnetic spool not because they 'grab' the spool but because the spool moves within their field at high speed thereby being slowed. My Penn 525 Mag works the exact same way and has no affect on how a bait swims as do the various baitcasters with magnets of which I have several. Mel (Jurel) has a post on Senor Tuna on magging a Trinidad. Same thing there.

[sdangler]

Originally Posted by hucklongfin

The magnet don't touch the spool. The higher the number the closer to the spool they move thereby increasing the slowing effect when the spool moves fast. The magnets work with an aluminum, non-magnetic spool not because they 'grab' the spool but because the spool moves within their field at high speed thereby being slowed. My Penn 525 Mag works the exact same way and has no affect on how a bait swims as do the various baitcasters with magnets of which I have several. Mel (Jurel) has a post on Senor Tuna on magging a Trinidad. Same thing there.

I understand that it doesn't "touch" the spool but it still seems to have an effect on it even at the lowest setting even in FREE SPOOL. I get it... My SX spools better than his does right now so we'll see.

I'm just telling you what I felt playing with it. Ask Mikey what he thinks as I did warn him. He did not ask for a MC, that's all they had in the model/color he wanted.

[sk8ingtuna]

The last thing I want is some resistance for my bait to get tired against.

No MC, learn to cast. We all had to put our time in learning, no shortcuts.

[hucklongfin]

Ask Mikey? Where have I heard that... say, did he do commercials years ago?

[eBean]

I personally own an Avet MXL MC. I can vouch that Avet has one of the best free spools out there. Casting with live bait is easy and literally sardines easily swim away. Anchovies do so as well. It's probably one of the easiest reels i've owned and really easy to maintain.

Although i can understand that some people may depend on the magnet and get lazy in wanting to learn how to cast... because there will be reels that wont have that and you just need practice. With the MC it just makes it easier.. a lot easier.

[MikeyLikesIt]

I have not loaded my SX 2 sp. MC with line yet.........and I may not. I dont need the MC.

In playing around with it.......it does seem that the freespool is compromised a bit by the effect of the magnets. How much? well.........Im a friggin electrician......so I dont have that type of measuring equipment........but it does seem logical to me that on a long soak (like at the 'Lupe) your bait would not win the race against non-magged reels.

WFO albies on the corner.....you aint gonna be able to tell. Its those long soaks on a pick bite where the difference will be noticed.......me thinks.

Im still on the fence about this reel. (just the MC.....I love my AVETs)

may keep it.....may sell it. I dunno.

[white box121]

Originally Posted by Ready4TheYellow

I personally would just practice practice practice casting. I give lessons but they arent cheap...

Originally Posted by TurdRoller

just learn how to cast...its like saying you want to learn how to play golf, but don't want to learn how to put. casting is the very first thing you should learn, aside from a palomar knot. the MC thing is neat and all, but a trained thumb is way better. i mean, what will happen if you want to fish calicos or the bay? you gonna use an sx mc if you ever try freshwater? or borrow somebody's reel?

everyone sucks at casting in the beginning, hell I've worked overnight for a few years and i still mess up every now and then...just part of the game buddy

Originally Posted by sk8ingtuna

No MC, learn to cast. We all had to put our time in learning, no shortcuts.

Steve, Kyle, and Richard all make a VERY CLEAR POINT HERE!

You should know how to cast! I tried all the MC's at Fred Hall(long beach) and the only reel i didn't manage to birdnest was the MC'd SX(and trust me and really tried hard to bird nest these things.

Avets are great reels but in my opinion you should really take the time and just practice your casting to the point where you can confidently cast with out using a magnet to back you up.

You should take steve's casting class, he will teach you to fling a jig from the beach to catalina!

[Ready4TheYellow]

Originally Posted by white box121

Steve, Kyle, and Richard all make a VERY CLEAR POINT HERE!

You should know how to cast! I tried all the MC's at Fred Hall(long beach) and the only reel i didn't manage to birdnest was the MC'd SX(and trust me and really tried hard to bird nest these things.

Avets are great reels but in my opinion you should really take the time and just practice your casting to the point where you can confidently cast with out using a magnet to back you up.

You should take steve's casting class, he will teach you to fling a jig from the beach to catalina!

I tried birdnesting them all and couldnt.

As for my casting class.....maybe I'll do a seminar one day.

[Guy]

I saw the Avet guy bird nest one at the Fred Hall Del Mar show while I was waiting to try them out, I never did try them I got tired of waiting, and I dont know what settings he was using but it would appear that you can bird nest.