To Grease or Not to Grease?

[seriola]

To grease or not togrease, that's the question?
Let's run over to the dark side.....

[coryellk]

Originally Posted by seriola

To grease or not togrease, that's the question?
Let's run over to the dark side.....

Check please. I'm there as well.

[fishnrust]

Been there since the first time I opened an Avet and saw the saltwater intursion.

Does that make Cal Lord Vader?

[smelling]

How can your reels last forever?, that's not going to happen -George "Bush"- MONEY TALKS !!!

[smelling]

Originally Posted by alantani

been watching the original post, and then this one, for quite a while now. i actually sat down late one night and wrote a long response after some very cold vodka. it took two glasses to write it. it would have taken four glasses to post it. good thing i ran out of alcohol.

i wish you luck. for those of you that wish to grease your drag washers, i welcome you to the dark side.......

Hi my name is ALAN and I'm a FISHAHOLIC!
Hello, ALAN !!! It works if you grease it.

[1crazy1]

Originally Posted by alantani

been watching the original post, and then this one, for quite a while now. i actually sat down late one night and wrote a long response after some very cold vodka. it took two glasses to write it. it would have taken four glasses to post it. good thing i ran out of alcohol.

i work on alot of avets. it's the same routine; cal's grease on the drag washers, yamaha grease in the screw holes, yamaha grease on all the non-exposed metal surfaces, open and lubed (corrosion x) spool bearings, all other bearings packed with grease, rearrange the bellevilles to increase the drag range, and oversized handles. the result is a very reliable reel. it will perform well within specs, it will perform reliably with specs. there are other reels that perform at a higher level, and many more that are lower. for the money you pay, the avets are a perfectly reasonable value.

many of you know that a greased carbon fiber drag has been my standard for many years. i am happy to say that this drag system is now used in the flagship two speed reels of penn, shimano, daiwa, accurate, and okuma. avet is last company that does not. i find that odd, but not odd enough to warrant a review of my current procedures. clearly in the minority, avet's stance troubles me little. for those of you that wish to abide by avet's policies, i wish you luck. for those of you that wish to grease your drag washers, i welcome you to the dark side.......

Your the man Alan! Its nice to see there are still some VERY detailed guys still out there. REEL DEAL says he can finally cast with his again. lool Tell me Alan, were they the worst you have ever seen??

[Gil Marlin]

Alan... is this what you meant to say???

[bladeduffer]

Alan,

followed your illustration for the SX overhaul, went ahead and applied Shimano drag grease to the drag washer. When dry, it almost felt like it was grabbing in some spots. When I took it apart, there was a fine layer of drag washer dust on the drag brake disc. After I wiped it down, smooth and no grabbing. After greasing and wiping down the excess, the drag feels as strong as before but much smoother.

Thanks for the tutorial!!!

[lrrr]

There is a fundamental difference in the design of drag chambers in the single drag avets and the doubles. I have an sx and an ex 4/0. I say for the single drag reels, grease the drags, because salt water can get behind the drag washer and no amount of flushing will get it out once it's in. But with the ex series, there is nowhere for the salt water to "hide", so a simple flush with water with the drag in free will get it all out. There is really no need to grease these washers.

[x-star]

Originally Posted by lrrr

There is really no need to grease these washers.

Unless you want a smoother drag

[bladeduffer]

Originally Posted by x-star

Unless you want a smoother drag

I guess that's what it ultimately comes down to. Yeah, my Saltiga 30L wet drag system is boat loads smoother than the dry system on my Avet LXs. Like I said, once greased, nice and smooth though still not as slick as the 30L. The thing with the dry setup is that it would seem you would get a lot more friction hence more drag or "brake" dust accumulation.

[clarkemp3]

So,

If you don't grease, you don't lose drag, but the reel isn't so smooth and salt gets stuck inside?

If you grease, you may lose a little drag, but the reel is smooth and salt DOESN'T get stuck inside? Or does?

Confused here. Trying to decide what to do with my SX that comes in the mail in a few days.